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Old February 13, 2018, 07:16 PM   #1
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My first 1911....suggestions?

I have decided I need a 1911 style pistol. I do not currently own one, and never have. I have decided it will be another 10mm, to go along with my glock 20. I like the 10mm and am already setup to load for it so ammo will be cheaper.

I don't have a budget per se'..But I don't need a boutique Wilson combat gun.....something in the $1500 or less range.

If you are nice enough to give an opinion on this, please justify it.

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Old February 13, 2018, 07:31 PM   #2
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1911 you say? 10mm you say? First gun that comes to my mind is the Colt Delta Elite in Stainless. Can be had around $900ish, has been around a long time as well. Pretty good shooting pistol. If you wanna go cheaper, Rock Island makes a few 10mm's

Forgot to mention Ruger now makes their SR1911 in 10mm! Haven't got to shoot one yet, but the .45 version is nice enough.
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Old February 13, 2018, 09:12 PM   #3
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COLT Delta Elite is on the short list. But there are others like the s&w 1006, kimber, Dan Wesson, ruger, and Para that I have been trying to evaluate
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Old February 13, 2018, 09:41 PM   #4
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for a 10mm 1911 look no further than the Colt Delta elite or a Dan Wesson. Both are well made pistols.
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Old February 13, 2018, 09:44 PM   #5
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If you're going to get a 1911, go with a Dan Wesson or a Colt; especially if you have that much to spend. The DW will be nicer. But the Colt will be a Colt!
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Old February 13, 2018, 09:48 PM   #6
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I think the Delta Elite is miles from the best choice. It's shown over and over that it does NOT have the case head support that many other 10mm have. The Delta Elite that I owned had an uninspiring trigger, GI style grip safety that ate up the web of my hand, and came with a plastic MSH and plastic in the guide rod.

In my opinion, the Delta Elite is a handsome pistol and it is historically significant. And if you don't intend to run full-spec and lively 10mm, then it is a fine base platform for a build.

Otherwise... most other choices are better and offer better value.
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Old February 13, 2018, 10:16 PM   #7
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At that price, you may be able to get a Dan Wesson Silverback. I'm a big fan of DW 1911s. They excellent 1911s. They also have ramped barrels which help with the case head support.
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Old February 13, 2018, 10:26 PM   #8
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I shoot full house 10mm loads in my glock with Alpha Wolf barrel (fully supported). 200 gr jhp at 1250-1260 fps from a 5.3" barrel.

The COLT concerns me on that front.
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Old February 13, 2018, 10:59 PM   #9
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COLT Delta Elite is on the short list. But there are others like the s&w 1006, kimber, Dan Wesson, ruger, and Para that I have been trying to evaluate
The S&W 1006 is not a 1911. Para-Ordnance/ParaUSA is out of business.

My vote would go to the Colt, but I was at the SHOT Show three weeks ago and a LOT of 1911 manufacturers are offering 10mm models this year. Take your pick.
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Old February 13, 2018, 11:25 PM   #10
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The S&W 1006 is not a 1911. Para-Ordnance/ParaUSA is out of business.
Good points



What about the kimber?
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Old February 14, 2018, 03:56 AM   #11
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Old February 14, 2018, 04:54 AM   #12
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dan wesson or perhaps you get lucky on a used les baer. Colt would be my third option
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Old February 15, 2018, 09:45 AM   #13
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Lots of good suggestions above, however, for the best forged frame and slide pistol that's out of the box reliable, I'd suggest a Springfield 1911. I bought a NM Mil-Spec back in 2012 and like it so much I bought a second, a NM Range Officer. Both have feed everything I've tried 100%. Not a single failure to feed in over 3K rds through each. Both are accurate and both are solid and reasonably priced.

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Old February 16, 2018, 05:35 AM   #14
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Dan Wesson was my first 1911 and I don't regret at all
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Old February 16, 2018, 06:28 AM   #15
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I shoot full house 10mm loads in my glock with Alpha Wolf barrel (fully supported). 200 gr jhp at 1250-1260 fps from a 5.3" barrel.

The COLT concerns me on that front.
I'm not sure how well any 1911 will fare on a diet of full house 10mm. I guess I would buy the one with the best warranty/customer service thinking I may need it.
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Old February 16, 2018, 07:49 AM   #16
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'm not sure how well any 1911 will fare on a diet of full house 10mm. I guess I would buy the one with the best warranty/customer service thinking I may need it.
It wouldn't be exclusively a diet of full power 10mm. Right now I have a plinking 180gr load and a full power 200gr load. The plinkers get shot the most by far.

I just need to know it can handle several mags of it and most of my concern is having a fully supported barrel. The glock 20 factory barrel is not, but with new brass it isn't dangerous.

The COLT DE seems to be a frequent kaboomer with full 10mm loads. Even with factory full power 10mm like Underwood or buffalo bore.

Again I wouldn't mostly be shooting full power loads in it, but when I do, I need to know it can handle it
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Old February 16, 2018, 08:33 AM   #17
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Dan Wesson if you have the money. Colt if you want to spend a little less.
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Old February 16, 2018, 09:14 AM   #18
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Are the Rugers not any good? I hear nothing about them
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Old February 16, 2018, 09:21 AM   #19
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I have decided I need a 1911 style pistol. I do not currently own one, and never have. I have decided it will be another 10mm, to go along with my glock 20. I like the 10mm and am already setup to load for it so ammo will be cheaper.

I don't have a budget per se'..But I don't need a boutique Wilson combat gun.....something in the $1500 or less range.

If you are nice enough to give an opinion on this, please justify it.

Thanks
Oh no, you don't "need" another gun, you just "want" it. Admitting it and then go get it, what ever you want. Don't we all know how it feel....
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Old February 16, 2018, 03:03 PM   #20
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For a 10mm 1911 (something I'm thinking I may need to get in a year or two) I will probably go with Ruger, Rock Island Armory, or the original, Colt Delta Elite. All are under $1500, the first two are well under $1500.
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Old February 16, 2018, 10:31 PM   #21
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I think I'm going to get the Ruger. Ramped and fully supported barrel, 4lb trigger, stainless, chf nitride barrel. My LGS has one I handled today along with a COLT DE, Remington Hunter, and some $3200 Wilson Combat. The Ruger has what I want in features, if it shoots I will be satisfied....and for $735
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Old February 16, 2018, 10:38 PM   #22
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Good choice Stats Shooter. If I were going to buy one today for under $750, the Ruger would be my first choice. They're customer service has been excellent in my experience as well, plus a great warranty.
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Old February 16, 2018, 10:45 PM   #23
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Good choice Stats Shooter. If I were going to buy one today for under $750
I learned long ago, price is an indicator of quality, but not the final word on it. I handled the Remington hunter ($1019), the COLT DE, and a $3200 Wilson Combat. If I hadn't seen the price tags, I would have ranked it 2nd behind the Wilson Combat and the Remington last based upon fit/finish, trigger pull, and other feel factors. I obviously couldn't shoot them and that's where it really counts.
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Old February 16, 2018, 11:01 PM   #24
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LOVE the 10. LOVE the 1911. Do Not LOVE the combo.
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