Real stupid question...

miscusi · April 24, 2006, 10:11 PM

I saw in many bugs bunnie cartoons, that if you put a finger in the barrel, elmer fudd will blow up instead of you..

any truth behind that ?

Jim Watson · April 24, 2006, 10:36 PM

Only if you are a cartoon character, too. Or as smart as one.
Mythbusters tried (simulated) fingers in muzzles and it did not have much effect. You CAN obstruct a gun barrel enough for energetic disassembly, a little mud will work fine.

NedreckSavant · April 24, 2006, 10:43 PM

I never understood how a lil mud or oil is said to be able to destroy the barrel. So if someone had a gun to your head how much good would it do to hock a loogey in the barrel?

Syntax360 · April 24, 2006, 10:58 PM

a half submerged barrel (as in dipped in a cup of water) can cause the barrel to visually swell and render the pistol useless. Shooting one underwater with a significant amount of air in the barrel can cause a kaboom.

Pointer · April 24, 2006, 11:04 PM

If the barrel is the same caliber as your finger...
and your finger is made of metal it might back blow some gas in the shooters face and possibly damage the barrel...

Explode? Nah!

Edward429451 · April 24, 2006, 11:28 PM

I seen a shotgun barrel peeled four ways like a banana because the owner decided to shoot a lil plug of snow from it when he had walked too close to a snow bank. Just the barrel was damaged, shooter was fine.

Dfariswheel · April 25, 2006, 01:17 AM

As above, the Myth Busters recently busted the myth that plugging a shotgun barrel could cause the muzzle to blow open like a banana peel.

Bottom line, no matter what they tried, INCLUDING putting a steel plug in the muzzle, they were unable to get the Remington Express barrel to "banana peel".
The best they got was a split in the side of the barrel.

Plugging the muzzle with simulated fingers, INCLUDING with a "bone" in the finger accomplished nothing.
The "fingers" were simply blown out of the barrel.

Their conclusion: Myth Busted! A shotgun barrel, (at least their Remington barrel) will not blow open like a banana peel.

NedreckSavant · April 25, 2006, 02:09 AM

All I know is regardless, I'm not stickin nothing in anything to find out.

miscusi · April 25, 2006, 02:46 AM

well then if it isnt true, those antis will make an issue out of it, how kids will put fingers in barrels and get their hands blown off. just kidding... I wonder how abouts this urban or acutally "woodlands" legend got its start.. why the loony toons people used it, and why it appears in numerous films and tv shows..

Edward429451 · April 25, 2006, 09:29 AM

I didn't make up what I saw. To clarify, I didn't see the guy take the shot that ruined the barrel, He was trying to sell the barrel at a yard sale for 15 bucks. I talked to him about it and that's what he said happened. I did take a pretty good look at it and the metal wasn't cut or anything, it was ripped backwards in four pc's just like a banana peel. About 12" back. I suppose he could have been pulling my leg and did it to the barrel somehow himself. But he didn't act like he was the type being an older guy and I had no reason to think he was lieing.

It was a round barrel, long, with no vent rib. The brand didn't come up.

AAshooter · April 25, 2006, 09:44 AM

We show a Rem 1100 barrel that is split open that some kid shot in our Hunter Education classes. He submerged the end of the gun in water and pulled the trigger. Although it is not "Bananna Peeled", it is dramatic.

Did myth busters try the 20 gauge/12 gauge combo in a shotgun?

Jim Watson · April 25, 2006, 09:47 AM

I have seen many pictures and some actual examples of banana peeled barrels from bore obstructions. Some barrels are tougher than others. Parker demonstrated the strength of their steel by dropping a 20 ga shell into the forcing cone of a 12 ga gun and blowing it out with a 12 ga shell. This is catastrophic on an ordinary gun of the period but the Parker stood it. So will some modern guns made of stronger steel.
Hatcher's Notebook has a chapter on just what obstructions will bulge or burst a rifle barrel and which will not.

Don't take a TV show, whether a cartoon or Mythbusters (How do you tell which is which?), as the last word on this or any technical subject.

Dfariswheel · April 25, 2006, 01:47 PM

To be fair, many older shotguns have thinner barrels than modern guns, and years ago they didn't have screw in chokes or vent ribs to add possible reinforcement.

Over the years most of obstructed shotguns I saw either bulged or split the muzzle, or ruptured the barrel farther back.

I have to say, I've never seen a "banana peel" shotgun, in person.

**44 AMP** · April 25, 2006, 09:06 PM

I did see the mythbusters show, and all they were able to do was make the barrrel split. I think a classic banana peel is unlikely, but possible, with older shotguns that had very thin barrels.

I have, however, actually seen a classic "banana peel" burst barrel, but that was on a 155mm artillery piece!

Harley Quinn · July 30, 2006, 11:30 PM

To see the "real peel".

HQ

maas · July 31, 2006, 12:31 AM

my buddie shot his shotgun with mud in the end of the barrel and all he got was a split.
now for the dumb @$$ award. my old basball coachs brother recived a 45 for x-mas and for some reason (cant remember if what he was doing) decided to plug the barrell with his feinger pulled the trigger and blew off his feinger. now hes a cop.

Harley Quinn · July 31, 2006, 10:05 AM

Remember the movie, where the guy sticks his finger in the end of a gun barrel sticking towards him?
The Guy holding the pistol yells what are you crazy, you want to get us both killed? It was spoof of one kind or another.

I can not remember the name of it, reason I mention it. Maybe someone can help with the name of the movie?

Mud in the end of the barrel can ruin a rifle or shotgun. I have heard of people getting hurt. I always check the hole and run a patch when shooting.
Never know what might be in there

The real experts,recommend to run patch's with a light coat of gun oil through when you are shooting. I read that in an article about the 45-70, guy was very serious about a slight coating. Helps the barrel life.

When in rainy weather many use some sort of object across the in to keep out rain and other items while in the field. Some use a piece of tape, or small latex finger protectors. You don't have to remove it just shoot it.

There are pros and cons in all things that are pertaining to the use of firearms.
I don't believe Elmer and Bugs set a good example myself.

Guess I am getting old but I did not think it was funny when I watched it in days of old. I would point out to the children it was not a good thing. Rifles and shotguns kill. A real party pooper.

Maas, I'll bet he lied about his missing digit. Hmmmmm

HQ

rpeterj · July 31, 2006, 02:35 PM

The name of the movie was "Support your Local Sheriff".

hpg · July 31, 2006, 05:48 PM

I would not advise you to try that. hpg

April 24, 2006, 10:11 PM	#1
miscusi Junior member Join Date: April 2, 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 217	Real stupid question... I saw in many bugs bunnie cartoons, that if you put a finger in the barrel, elmer fudd will blow up instead of you.. any truth behind that ?

April 24, 2006, 11:04 PM	#5
Pointer Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 2,559	If the barrel is the same caliber as your finger... and your finger is made of metal it might back blow some gas in the shooters face and possibly damage the barrel... Explode? Nah! __________________ . "Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face." Charlton Heston 30-06 FOREVER

April 25, 2006, 09:44 AM	#11
AAshooter Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2001 Posts: 379	We show a Rem 1100 barrel that is split open that some kid shot in our Hunter Education classes. He submerged the end of the gun in water and pulled the trigger. Although it is not "Bananna Peeled", it is dramatic. Did myth busters try the 20 gauge/12 gauge combo in a shotgun? __________________ Play hard, shoot often, leave well worn guns!

April 25, 2006, 09:06 PM	#14
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,832	banana peel I did see the mythbusters show, and all they were able to do was make the barrrel split. I think a classic banana peel is unlikely, but possible, with older shotguns that had very thin barrels. I have, however, actually seen a classic "banana peel" burst barrel, but that was on a 155mm artillery piece!

July 30, 2006, 11:30 PM	#15
Harley Quinn Junior member Join Date: August 30, 2005 Location: State of KALI Posts: 1,531	Need to start with Damascus barrel To see the "real peel". HQ

April 24, 2006, 10:36 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	Only if you are a cartoon character, too. Or as smart as one. Mythbusters tried (simulated) fingers in muzzles and it did not have much effect. You CAN obstruct a gun barrel enough for energetic disassembly, a little mud will work fine.

April 24, 2006, 10:43 PM	#3
NedreckSavant Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 2006 Posts: 268	I never understood how a lil mud or oil is said to be able to destroy the barrel. So if someone had a gun to your head how much good would it do to hock a loogey in the barrel?

April 24, 2006, 10:58 PM	#4
Syntax360 Senior Member Join Date: April 17, 2006 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 694	a half submerged barrel (as in dipped in a cup of water) can cause the barrel to visually swell and render the pistol useless. Shooting one underwater with a significant amount of air in the barrel can cause a kaboom.

April 24, 2006, 11:28 PM	#6
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	I seen a shotgun barrel peeled four ways like a banana because the owner decided to shoot a lil plug of snow from it when he had walked too close to a snow bank. Just the barrel was damaged, shooter was fine.

April 25, 2006, 01:17 AM	#7
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	As above, the Myth Busters recently busted the myth that plugging a shotgun barrel could cause the muzzle to blow open like a banana peel. Bottom line, no matter what they tried, INCLUDING putting a steel plug in the muzzle, they were unable to get the Remington Express barrel to "banana peel". The best they got was a split in the side of the barrel. Plugging the muzzle with simulated fingers, INCLUDING with a "bone" in the finger accomplished nothing. The "fingers" were simply blown out of the barrel. Their conclusion: Myth Busted! A shotgun barrel, (at least their Remington barrel) will not blow open like a banana peel.

April 25, 2006, 02:09 AM	#8
NedreckSavant Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 2006 Posts: 268	All I know is regardless, I'm not stickin nothing in anything to find out.

April 25, 2006, 02:46 AM	#9
miscusi Junior member Join Date: April 2, 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 217	well then if it isnt true, those antis will make an issue out of it, how kids will put fingers in barrels and get their hands blown off. just kidding... I wonder how abouts this urban or acutally "woodlands" legend got its start.. why the loony toons people used it, and why it appears in numerous films and tv shows..

April 25, 2006, 09:29 AM	#10
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	I didn't make up what I saw. To clarify, I didn't see the guy take the shot that ruined the barrel, He was trying to sell the barrel at a yard sale for 15 bucks. I talked to him about it and that's what he said happened. I did take a pretty good look at it and the metal wasn't cut or anything, it was ripped backwards in four pc's just like a banana peel. About 12" back. I suppose he could have been pulling my leg and did it to the barrel somehow himself. But he didn't act like he was the type being an older guy and I had no reason to think he was lieing. It was a round barrel, long, with no vent rib. The brand didn't come up.

April 25, 2006, 09:47 AM	#12
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	I have seen many pictures and some actual examples of banana peeled barrels from bore obstructions. Some barrels are tougher than others. Parker demonstrated the strength of their steel by dropping a 20 ga shell into the forcing cone of a 12 ga gun and blowing it out with a 12 ga shell. This is catastrophic on an ordinary gun of the period but the Parker stood it. So will some modern guns made of stronger steel. Hatcher's Notebook has a chapter on just what obstructions will bulge or burst a rifle barrel and which will not. Don't take a TV show, whether a cartoon or Mythbusters (How do you tell which is which?), as the last word on this or any technical subject.

April 25, 2006, 01:47 PM	#13
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	To be fair, many older shotguns have thinner barrels than modern guns, and years ago they didn't have screw in chokes or vent ribs to add possible reinforcement. Over the years most of obstructed shotguns I saw either bulged or split the muzzle, or ruptured the barrel farther back. I have to say, I've never seen a "banana peel" shotgun, in person.

July 31, 2006, 12:31 AM	#16
maas Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2005 Location: The state of Jefferson Posts: 897	my buddie shot his shotgun with mud in the end of the barrel and all he got was a split. now for the dumb @$$ award. my old basball coachs brother recived a 45 for x-mas and for some reason (cant remember if what he was doing) decided to plug the barrell with his feinger pulled the trigger and blew off his feinger. now hes a cop. __________________ I don't try to offend....some times i get lucky! There's always one thing that makes Republicans look good on election day...........Democrats!

July 31, 2006, 10:05 AM	#17
Harley Quinn Junior member Join Date: August 30, 2005 Location: State of KALI Posts: 1,531	Where, when and why? Remember the movie, where the guy sticks his finger in the end of a gun barrel sticking towards him? The Guy holding the pistol yells what are you crazy, you want to get us both killed? It was spoof of one kind or another. I can not remember the name of it, reason I mention it. Maybe someone can help with the name of the movie? Mud in the end of the barrel can ruin a rifle or shotgun. I have heard of people getting hurt. I always check the hole and run a patch when shooting. Never know what might be in there The real experts,recommend to run patch's with a light coat of gun oil through when you are shooting. I read that in an article about the 45-70, guy was very serious about a slight coating. Helps the barrel life. When in rainy weather many use some sort of object across the in to keep out rain and other items while in the field. Some use a piece of tape, or small latex finger protectors. You don't have to remove it just shoot it. There are pros and cons in all things that are pertaining to the use of firearms. I don't believe Elmer and Bugs set a good example myself. Guess I am getting old but I did not think it was funny when I watched it in days of old. I would point out to the children it was not a good thing. Rifles and shotguns kill. A real party pooper. Maas, I'll bet he lied about his missing digit. Hmmmmm HQ

July 31, 2006, 02:35 PM	#18
rpeterj Junior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Posts: 2	The name of the movie was "Support your Local Sheriff".

July 31, 2006, 05:48 PM	#19
hpg Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2002 Location: in the Bluegrass State Posts: 1,610	I would not advise you to try that. hpg __________________ NRA member Semper Paratus