September 26, 2005, 11:50 PM | #1 |
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anyone carry.......
Hey guys i purchased one of these about 2 years ago, mainly cause i thought they were neat, and i knew alot of LEO who let me see theirs, its a 16in ASP electroless baton, its 6in closed and 16.5 in open i believe, just curious if anyone has or does carry one as a civ, cause i keep mine with me all the time, its a heck of a deterrent. One other thing, could anyone LEO or other comment on the legality of using such a weapon in self defense in colorado, or anywhere for that matter.
heres a link to there website, or just google ASP batons http://www.asp-net.com/Products/Family.asp?SectionID=1
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September 26, 2005, 11:52 PM | #2 |
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I have an ASP baton from back around '94 or so. I just had to get one after I saw In The Line Of Fire 'cause I thought it looked really cool.
I usually keep mine in the center console box of my car, along with a can of pepper spray, in case I run into trouble with someone that really doesn't warrant shooting them. -blackmind |
September 27, 2005, 12:58 AM | #3 |
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I carry a 26" standard baton here in FL .i am a civ ,i also carry a
sa-xd-40 ,carry a crkt m16-14z am comfortablewith all,some people don t need to be shot.but most of them do ____________________________________________ remember the only easy day was yesterday hooyaa UDT12 ,ST1 78-84 |
September 27, 2005, 03:53 AM | #4 |
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I had one but I sold it.
I liked it but it rattled when I carried it. Then I got a stun gun. I would like a stun baton.
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September 27, 2005, 11:12 AM | #5 |
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thanks guys, does anyone know if there legal to carry/use in a situation, hoping some police could comment on this one.
Tim
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September 27, 2005, 11:14 AM | #6 |
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Illegal in TX for a civilian. Bopping somebody with one may be considered lethal force so you better know your stuff in your state before hitting someone in the head.
OC is better - sigh, except for those who are autodidactic on the subject.
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October 20, 2005, 09:01 PM | #7 |
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Asp
I carry one in my back pocket. But thats just habit from work.
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October 29, 2005, 11:43 AM | #8 |
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Illegal in Massachusetts
Even with an LTC
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October 29, 2005, 12:00 PM | #9 |
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I have one and also a PR-24. They are very neat and superb for that vast grey area between words and lethal force.
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October 29, 2005, 12:19 PM | #10 |
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I carry one under the armrest in my truck. they are technically illegal where i live. I have had le see it a couple times and none had a problem with it. although i am a respectable member of society. it all depends on where you live and how you act.
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October 29, 2005, 12:22 PM | #11 |
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also yes they are mainly for stopping threats, not hammering someone in the head with it. i.e. wrist, knees, maybe ribs
and sure would look better in court if you only stopped the threat with a strike to the wrist of a BG, instead of emptying your gun into them. on the other hand if you kill someone with it im sure they will throw the book at you.
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October 29, 2005, 05:44 PM | #13 |
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I carry a 26" ASP sometimes, I bought it when I was working security. I had a thread going awhile ago where a couple individuals were advising me that if I used it, it would be considered a lethal weapon (agreed), and that the prosecutor would feel that I was carring with intent to cause harm. Personally, I'd just check your state and local laws, and Don't Do Dumb Things with it, like brandish it at people. Now, as far as training goes, I don't know if there are any strictly civilian trainers, but it is not LEO exclusive. When I was in security, My supervisor, the owner of the company, and the owners daughter were all ASP instructors.
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