September 8, 2015, 09:22 PM | #1 |
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Park my C&R for now?
My C&R is due to renew but I can't see any near term need to keep it current. Consider to let it slip for now and just reapply when I feel like. Is there any wait period before reapplying?
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September 8, 2015, 10:18 PM | #2 |
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No waiting period, once it's lapsed it's a new application.
I'm thinking about not renewing mine, either, seems to be a dearth of milsurps last two license cycles. |
September 8, 2015, 11:02 PM | #3 |
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Probably gonna let mine go too. Dunno.
It's only $10 per year. I haven't bought a C&R gun in years, or had any other benefit from it. Sad to let it go, but it may go bye-bye... |
September 9, 2015, 12:44 AM | #4 |
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Besides milsurps, many companies will give you a discount if you send your C&R to them.
Also, you may come across a C&R on a trip sometime where you can just present your license.. And lastly, any gun made in or before 1965 (soon to be 1966) is automatically a C&R, and that includes a lot of nice Smiths, Colts and others. Personally, for ten bucks a year, I'd keep it.
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September 9, 2015, 02:17 AM | #5 |
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If I traveled out of state I would have one myself.
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September 9, 2015, 07:10 AM | #7 |
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The cost and ease of renewal as well as the convenience I'll keep mine. I agree the milsurps market is pretty lame these days but you never know when something you can't live without may come along.
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September 9, 2015, 08:44 PM | #9 |
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Anyone with, or planning on getting, a 03 FFL (C&R license) should check state law. Some states treat them like dealer's licenses; others make no provision for them at all and they are meaningless; others ban "importing" some firearms by anyone except a state licensed dealer.
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September 9, 2015, 09:27 PM | #10 |
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Already have it, had it for a long time. Ten bucks a year ain't gonna break me. Figure getting a new one later might be much more of a hassle than just renewing when it is due.
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September 10, 2015, 07:24 AM | #11 |
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I rarely get anything "new" from the importers/dealers, but the C&R most benefits me in buying directly from other collectors on the websites I frequent. Who needs an 01 Dealer for that?
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"Anyone with, or planning on getting, a 03 FFL (C&R license) should check state law. Some states treat them like dealer's licenses; others make no provision for them at all and they are meaningless; others ban "importing" some firearms by anyone except a state licensed dealer."
Yep, good point. NJ is one of those states. They don't care if the pistol is a flintlock, it's still a handgun that requires a permit. |
September 10, 2015, 07:52 PM | #13 |
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Is there any requirement such as how many purchases during the 3 yrs period to qualify as a collector when renew the C&R. I only bought 2 but sold 3 in the past 3 yrs!
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September 11, 2015, 12:35 AM | #14 |
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There's no purchase requirements as to quantity. Do limit sales to improving your collection, such as unwanted items raising cash buy another, or trades. Excessive sales, whatever that is, will get you looked at by BATFE.
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September 15, 2015, 07:09 AM | #15 |
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I keep my license active for Gunbroker purchases or when Aim or SOG pop up with " such a deal". In fact right now, although not C&R, SOG is taking pre order on Bulg Mak's that are in unissued condition. Hopefully the import marking boys will keep it small and professional rather than the billboards of some.
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Since regs were revised in '02, no more "discrete" import markings. They must be "conspicuously" engraved, letters no less than 1/16" in height. That said, some do go seem to go beyond that requirement. Not sure why, IMO it only devalues them.
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September 16, 2015, 09:38 PM | #17 |
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When your 03 expires you are not required to retain your records.
If you don't have an issue in your records I don't see any reason you would want to let it expire @ $10 a year. |
September 20, 2015, 05:58 AM | #18 |
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I'm thinking of parking my C&R mostly because I wasn't buying many in the last cycle and sort of afraid that ATF may reject the renew application saying I have no need for the license and I waste my $30 renew fee!
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September 20, 2015, 01:04 PM | #19 |
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Fortunately, the criteria for issuing the license does not include 'need'. Submit a complete application, pass the background checks, pay the fee, and you have your license. Which is as it should be.
The only gun I ever 'needed' was the first one I bought. Since then, it's all 'wanted'. |
September 21, 2015, 02:17 PM | #20 |
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I don't think there is any reason or inspection regarding how much it has been used for normal renewals.
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September 21, 2015, 02:56 PM | #21 |
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I don't have a C&R FFL license nor am I an expert, what I do know is that there are no longer surplus of supplies in shops around my neck of the wood. I thought about getting one and start a collection for "display", kind of a history buff myself, but I decided that it is not that practical.
Just couple years ago, you can find European surplus almost in every shops...
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September 22, 2015, 01:35 PM | #22 |
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There are a lot of C&R firearms that are not surplus.
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October 6, 2015, 04:48 PM | #23 |
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My C&R was severely devalued this year when Bollmberg bought and paid for state government passed a new law that specifically excludes C&R holders from being able to use it for firearms transactions.
Will likely let it fade away, as our rights already have..
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Of course, there are also newer weapons that are specified on the BATF "list" that are also C&Rs after being specifically petitioned for revised status by individuals and approved as such by BATF. CZ82s are a good example.
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