Canik TP9sf Elite

Tibult · January 11, 2017, 08:26 PM

Just bought a Canik TP9SF elite will take it to the range tomorrow to test it if it shoots good.It wont be a carry gun just a home defense and car gun if it does decent. Any FTE,FTF, or double feeds will be noted tomorrow. I will be shooting Fiocchi 115 grain fmj and Pmc 115 grain fmj as a test to see if there is a achilles heel of this gun that weaker non-Nato spec ammo will cause it to jam or have weak ejections.I will then shoot Hornady 124 grain +p xtp's and critical duty 135 grain +p flexlocks.
Any one own one and what were your experiences with it?

Not going to sell it regardless of outcome since every time I sell something I lose at least $50 or more since it will be a used gun and not a major gun brand like Glock that hold their value better.

Steve1 · January 11, 2017, 08:45 PM

Lets us know how it works. I'm interested in buying one for myself. If I may ask where did you purchase it and what was the cost.? Thanks

Tibult · January 11, 2017, 09:34 PM

I purchased it at a local gun store called Infidel Firearms Academy that just opened up and paid $480 after tax so a bit high but within reason.You should be able to get it for $425-$450 if you are patient.
I will give an update on how it did tomorrow afternoon.

Steve1 · January 11, 2017, 09:53 PM

Great Can't wait for the range report. I had 2 full size Caniks TP9SF in Desert tan. Awesome gun . Don't know why I sold them plus I lost $$. Never again.

wild cat mccane · January 12, 2017, 08:07 AM

Would love to hear it.

A bit high? at $100 too high

Tibult · January 12, 2017, 02:31 PM

Range report it had failure to ejects,double feed, and stove pipes with all 100 rounds of 115 grain fmj from both Fiocchi and PMC. Worse with the latter essentially had to shoot it like a single shot pistol and manually cycle slide after every shot to eject spent casing and remove magazine to prevent double feed before firing.

Then I tested defense ammo from Hornady to Speer in 124 grains standard and +p and lightweight 90 grain corbon +p it cycled perfectly through all of them without a hiccup put 50-60 rounds through it.
Accuracy was very good better then Glock 19 I have had.
So my conclusion is this gun is only designed to shoot hot defense 9mm ammo not light range ammo.I will contact Century and see if they are in the process of making a lighter recoil spring designed for more variety of ammo until then I will have this gun only as a home defense gun not a carry gun.
Update Did send information to Century arms waiting for a response back

Tibult · January 12, 2017, 02:35 PM

Florida gun stores price their guns high so its part of the accepted tradition here to price them 50-100 dollars above internet prices

wild cat mccane · January 12, 2017, 09:00 PM

Your report is 100% what I've seen with zero stating otherwise.

Hopefully Century gets back to you. My experience with them has been a bit abrupt for help.

Keep us posted.

tahunua001 · January 12, 2017, 09:37 PM

hmm... that's no bueno. I'm glad the hotter stuff feeds but from the sounds of things with failures to eject, and double feeds that hardly seems like something that a lighter recoil spring could fix, it sounds more like you might need to clean it up a bit better.

TunnelRat · January 12, 2017, 10:01 PM

This matches reports for the Elite I've seen as well. Sounds to me like it might be oversprung. Might break in over time.

Tibult · January 12, 2017, 10:46 PM

If it was so dirty that it causes failures to eject and double feeds I would of had the same results with the defense ammo I shot after the FMJs. And it was clean enough to see the shiny ramp and light film of oil when I took it to the range its a defensive pistol not a 1911 fine tuned target gun.

I guarantee you guys its related to the stiff recoil spring and possibly the extractor too.Its the softest recoiling and accurate 9mm handgun I have shot so far that is why I am not giving up on it.Hopefully century does not drop the ball and fail to fix the issue. I am still waiting to hear back after I sent them my info so I can get a shipping label.

And those of you on the fence about this gun trust me this gun is worth the money.Once they remedy the issues I have and others have had it will be a home run as a pistol under $500.And if your impatient do what I did you may get one that wont have any issues with light ammo otherwise run hotter 9mm through it.

Nathan · January 13, 2017, 12:48 PM

Hope they make it right. Seems like a fine gun.

On another note.....this may mean nothing to you, but a Glocks, XD's and M&P's regularly sell online for less than $480... $20 -$30 transfer fees are available in your area, if you look around.

wild cat mccane · January 13, 2017, 05:13 PM

Yes. For the features, Canik has to stay low in price. I know everyone said they are well worth more, but at more, the other options come with metal treatment, are thinner, have better coatings, etc.

I am pick up the Elite if we hear of a solution. I haven't read a thread or watched a youtube yet from someone who isn't experiencing this issue.

Tibult · January 13, 2017, 05:34 PM

I sent the gun to century so it can take up to 6 weeks according to them for it to come back. Hopefully they fix it and it works with all ammo.

TunnelRat · January 13, 2017, 05:56 PM

Did you have to pay shipping or did they send you a label?

Tibult · January 13, 2017, 08:02 PM

They sent me a label I would not have sent it if I had to pay $40 to ship it.

TunnelRat · January 13, 2017, 08:21 PM

Cool. Some companies can be a pain about that so that's good to hear.

Tibult · January 13, 2017, 08:24 PM

I think its because century has had a history of being a pain so they have changed their stance instead of pissing off their customers they rather keep them satisfied.

tahunua001 · January 13, 2017, 10:30 PM

I had to send a first gen canik tp9 in for failures to return to battery, I got the same 6 week estimate, total turn around time from the day they gave me the return label was 8 days and it functioned great after that.. century CS is way better than any of the other manufacturers I've dealt with.

Tibult · January 13, 2017, 11:01 PM

Hopefully I get that result too.

wild cat mccane · January 14, 2017, 09:14 AM

Defiantly good to hear.

Keep us posted. Very interested...but the CZ P10c is coming soon too

Tibult · January 15, 2017, 04:08 PM

Once they work out the kinks of this model like the standard SF this gun should be the gold standard for budget handguns under $450 for Elite and $400 for standard SF. This is truly becoming the salad days for 9mm handguns and of course AR's. I may wait till the CZ P10c is proven and any kinks it may have is worked out before I try it out.

tahunua001 · January 15, 2017, 04:14 PM

I personally am still waiting for the SFX, longslide comp model with 20 round mags.

Tibult · January 15, 2017, 04:24 PM

Alot of new innovating models are coming out every year from them. I see them putting a hurtin to Walther and Smith and Wesson if they don't get their prices in competition with Canik.

tahunua001 · January 15, 2017, 04:51 PM

agree.

January 11, 2017, 08:26 PM	#1
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	Canik TP9sf Elite Just bought a Canik TP9SF elite will take it to the range tomorrow to test it if it shoots good.It wont be a carry gun just a home defense and car gun if it does decent. Any FTE,FTF, or double feeds will be noted tomorrow. I will be shooting Fiocchi 115 grain fmj and Pmc 115 grain fmj as a test to see if there is a achilles heel of this gun that weaker non-Nato spec ammo will cause it to jam or have weak ejections.I will then shoot Hornady 124 grain +p xtp's and critical duty 135 grain +p flexlocks. Any one own one and what were your experiences with it? Not going to sell it regardless of outcome since every time I sell something I lose at least $50 or more since it will be a used gun and not a major gun brand like Glock that hold their value better.

January 12, 2017, 02:31 PM	#6
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	Range report it had failure to ejects,double feed, and stove pipes with all 100 rounds of 115 grain fmj from both Fiocchi and PMC. Worse with the latter essentially had to shoot it like a single shot pistol and manually cycle slide after every shot to eject spent casing and remove magazine to prevent double feed before firing. Then I tested defense ammo from Hornady to Speer in 124 grains standard and +p and lightweight 90 grain corbon +p it cycled perfectly through all of them without a hiccup put 50-60 rounds through it. Accuracy was very good better then Glock 19 I have had. So my conclusion is this gun is only designed to shoot hot defense 9mm ammo not light range ammo.I will contact Century and see if they are in the process of making a lighter recoil spring designed for more variety of ammo until then I will have this gun only as a home defense gun not a carry gun. Update Did send information to Century arms waiting for a response back Last edited by Tibult; January 12, 2017 at 03:58 PM.

January 12, 2017, 09:37 PM	#9
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	hmm... that's no bueno. I'm glad the hotter stuff feeds but from the sounds of things with failures to eject, and double feeds that hardly seems like something that a lighter recoil spring could fix, it sounds more like you might need to clean it up a bit better. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

January 12, 2017, 10:01 PM	#10
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	This matches reports for the Elite I've seen as well. Sounds to me like it might be oversprung. Might break in over time. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

January 12, 2017, 10:46 PM	#11
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	If it was so dirty that it causes failures to eject and double feeds I would of had the same results with the defense ammo I shot after the FMJs. And it was clean enough to see the shiny ramp and light film of oil when I took it to the range its a defensive pistol not a 1911 fine tuned target gun. I guarantee you guys its related to the stiff recoil spring and possibly the extractor too.Its the softest recoiling and accurate 9mm handgun I have shot so far that is why I am not giving up on it.Hopefully century does not drop the ball and fail to fix the issue. I am still waiting to hear back after I sent them my info so I can get a shipping label. And those of you on the fence about this gun trust me this gun is worth the money.Once they remedy the issues I have and others have had it will be a home run as a pistol under $500.And if your impatient do what I did you may get one that wont have any issues with light ammo otherwise run hotter 9mm through it. Last edited by Tibult; January 12, 2017 at 10:57 PM.

January 11, 2017, 08:45 PM	#2
Steve1 Member Join Date: March 7, 2005 Posts: 16	Lets us know how it works. I'm interested in buying one for myself. If I may ask where did you purchase it and what was the cost.? Thanks

January 11, 2017, 09:34 PM	#3
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	I purchased it at a local gun store called Infidel Firearms Academy that just opened up and paid $480 after tax so a bit high but within reason.You should be able to get it for $425-$450 if you are patient. I will give an update on how it did tomorrow afternoon.

January 11, 2017, 09:53 PM	#4
Steve1 Member Join Date: March 7, 2005 Posts: 16	Great Can't wait for the range report. I had 2 full size Caniks TP9SF in Desert tan. Awesome gun . Don't know why I sold them plus I lost $$. Never again.

January 12, 2017, 08:07 AM	#5
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	Would love to hear it. A bit high? at $100 too high

January 12, 2017, 02:35 PM	#7
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	Florida gun stores price their guns high so its part of the accepted tradition here to price them 50-100 dollars above internet prices

January 12, 2017, 09:00 PM	#8
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	Your report is 100% what I've seen with zero stating otherwise. Hopefully Century gets back to you. My experience with them has been a bit abrupt for help. Keep us posted.

January 13, 2017, 12:48 PM	#12
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,331	Hope they make it right. Seems like a fine gun. On another note.....this may mean nothing to you, but a Glocks, XD's and M&P's regularly sell online for less than $480... $20 -$30 transfer fees are available in your area, if you look around.

January 13, 2017, 05:13 PM	#13
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	Yes. For the features, Canik has to stay low in price. I know everyone said they are well worth more, but at more, the other options come with metal treatment, are thinner, have better coatings, etc. I am pick up the Elite if we hear of a solution. I haven't read a thread or watched a youtube yet from someone who isn't experiencing this issue.

January 13, 2017, 05:34 PM	#14
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	I sent the gun to century so it can take up to 6 weeks according to them for it to come back. Hopefully they fix it and it works with all ammo.

January 13, 2017, 05:56 PM	#15
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	Did you have to pay shipping or did they send you a label? __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

January 13, 2017, 08:02 PM	#16
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	They sent me a label I would not have sent it if I had to pay $40 to ship it.

January 13, 2017, 08:21 PM	#17
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	Cool. Some companies can be a pain about that so that's good to hear. __________________ Know the status of your weapon Keep your muzzle oriented so that no one will be hurt if the firearm discharges Keep your finger off the trigger until you have an adequate sight picture Maintain situational awareness

January 13, 2017, 08:24 PM	#18
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	I think its because century has had a history of being a pain so they have changed their stance instead of pissing off their customers they rather keep them satisfied.

January 13, 2017, 10:30 PM	#19
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	I had to send a first gen canik tp9 in for failures to return to battery, I got the same 6 week estimate, total turn around time from the day they gave me the return label was 8 days and it functioned great after that.. century CS is way better than any of the other manufacturers I've dealt with. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

January 13, 2017, 11:01 PM	#20
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	Hopefully I get that result too.

January 14, 2017, 09:14 AM	#21
wild cat mccane Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 3,627	Defiantly good to hear. Keep us posted. Very interested...but the CZ P10c is coming soon too

January 15, 2017, 04:08 PM	#22
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	Once they work out the kinks of this model like the standard SF this gun should be the gold standard for budget handguns under $450 for Elite and $400 for standard SF. This is truly becoming the salad days for 9mm handguns and of course AR's. I may wait till the CZ P10c is proven and any kinks it may have is worked out before I try it out.

January 15, 2017, 04:14 PM	#23
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	I personally am still waiting for the SFX, longslide comp model with 20 round mags. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

January 15, 2017, 04:24 PM	#24
Tibult Member Join Date: June 21, 2015 Posts: 79	Alot of new innovating models are coming out every year from them. I see them putting a hurtin to Walther and Smith and Wesson if they don't get their prices in competition with Canik.

January 15, 2017, 04:51 PM	#25
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	agree. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin