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Old April 7, 2018, 12:09 PM   #1
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Car safe

I am not asking about whether they are a good idea or not, but rather, which one seems to work best. I have a sig p938. I drive a sedan. I have 2 young daughters, a very nervous wife a desire to have easy access to my firearm in my car.

What do you guys think?
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Old April 7, 2018, 03:13 PM   #2
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Under the circumstances, the safest place with easiest access is on your hip.

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Old April 7, 2018, 03:59 PM   #3
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If you need to leave it in the car, like when you enter the Post Office, you might try the sunglass holder up where the inside lights are. That is, if the pistol is small enough. No one ever would think of it being there.
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Old April 7, 2018, 04:33 PM   #4
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Answering your question, I have one of these cabled around the frame of the passenger front seat. It's certainly not quick access, but for safe temporary storage in a vehicle.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/STAC...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

Nonetheless, there's no way I would try stashing or unstashing a pistol in it while my kids - or anyone - were in the back seat. There's risk every time a gun is unholstered, and in a car full of people there are few places you can point the muzzle without sweeping someone.

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Old April 7, 2018, 04:47 PM   #5
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I have THIS
one cabled to the seat frame. As others have said...the safest place is on your hip.
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Old April 7, 2018, 06:58 PM   #6
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Answering your question, I have one of these cabled around the frame of the passenger front seat. It's certainly not quick access, but for safe temporary storage in a vehicle.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/STAC...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

Nonetheless, there's no way I would try stashing or unstashing a pistol in it while my kids - or anyone - were in the back seat. There's risk every time a gun is unholstered, and in a car full of people there are few places you can point the muzzle without sweeping someone.

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You mean that you wouldn't take it in and out or wouldn't have it in there at all while the kids were in the car?
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Old April 7, 2018, 09:05 PM   #7
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You mean that you wouldn't take it in and out or wouldn't have it in there at all while the kids were in the car?
What I meant was unholstering a handgun and putting it in the lockbox every time I got in the car (with kids), then unlocking the box, removing the gun and reholstering when I got out of the car while the kids - or the wife - was still in the car.

Safest option is just keeping it holstered. The less it's handled the less risk there is of an unintended discharge.

Good luck! Hope the wife understands you just want to be safe as possible.

PS: I assume your reason for having the gun in the first place is to keep your family safe and protect them from harm, so my advice is to stay armed and be safe.

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Old April 7, 2018, 09:54 PM   #8
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What I meant was unholstering a handgun and putting it in the lockbox every time I got in the car (with kids), then unlocking the box, removing the gun and reholstering when I got out of the car while the kids - or the wife - was still in the car.

Safest option is just keeping it holstered. The less it's handled the less risk there is of an unintended discharge.

Good luck! Hope the wife understands you just want to be safe as possible.

PS: I assume your reason for having the gun in the first place is to keep your family safe and protect them from harm, so my advice is to stay armed and be safe.

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Thanks! Great advice.
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Old April 8, 2018, 05:12 PM   #9
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Absolutely the safest is on your person. IWB, or pocket.
But, when you must leave the gun in the vehicle unattended, I really like the Hornady TriPoint lock box. It is made of heavier metal, has a heavier cable, and a much more secure locking system than most boxes of it's type. Not I tended for quick access But my purpose is to secure a firearm that I am forced to leave behind by poorly advised "gun free zone" laws.
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Old April 9, 2018, 10:31 AM   #10
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It's not easy to have quick access, if that's desired at the same time providing any real security. I would keep it on your person if possible. Sedans with small consoles don't help and under the seat usually isn't very quick if needed.
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Old April 9, 2018, 08:04 PM   #11
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Given the wife's concern re daughters, I'd leave the gun at home in the safe. Just me but the daughters are more important to her than you. TRUE.

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Old April 11, 2018, 12:23 PM   #12
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I'd start here:

http://www.consolevault.com/

They mostly make stuff for trucks and SUV's, but there are a handful of vaults that fit sedans. Might be worth giving them a call to see if there's a universal option that may work. I know you can also get trunk safes, but that's not quick access if that's what you're going for.
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Old April 13, 2018, 06:05 PM   #13
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Had a gal that used to complain about me carrying all the time...
one night some sketchy dudes were hanging out at the theater when we left the movies...
we walked on by, no issues, but when we got in the truck, she asked,
"You do have your gun on you, right"
Big Smile, "Yep!"
She never complained again. All it takes is a little fear to turn the worst anti-gunner
into a lifelong Pro-Gun advocate
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Old April 15, 2018, 02:19 PM   #14
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Given the wife's concern re daughters, I'd leave the gun at home in the safe. Just me but the daughters are more important to her than you. TRUE.

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No offense but I completely disagree. You bought that gun to protect your family not your home safe.

Given you have a Sig 938 which is usually carried cocked and locked, I would look at appendix carry which will give you a better chance of drawing that gun as opposed to trying to get it out of a holster on your hip while wearing a seatbelt.

I keep one of those low cost lockable black tin stack-on products under the seat just in case I have to secure my gun for a very short time. I have been known to them move that box into the trunk for longer periods I cannot carry. I would in no way recommend storing it in a box like that if quick access is what you desire. (think carjacking while sitting at a stoplight and your kids are in the back seat).

One more thing, Take your wife to the range and hire someone to teach her how to handle that firearm. My wife at 72 has no interest in shooting but she passed her shooting test, does have a carry permit, and she does know how load and point a revolver with a Crimson Trace laser at someone that might have bad intentions.

I am very glad my kids are out of the house and I can pretty much hop in the car and put a handgun anywhere I want until I arrive at my destination.
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Old April 15, 2018, 03:01 PM   #15
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Gnystrom.. To each his own. I happen to be 70ish myself with guns laying around the house with a S/W M64 in my car console. Kids all on their own. My best friend is an experienced divorce lawyer -- the OP bothered me. I will leave it at that.

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Old June 1, 2018, 03:02 AM   #16
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I finally had a car safe(B3)installed by Nissi safes https://secretstorages.com/best-car-gun-safe/ and I am very happy with the service I received.

I personally have a need for such a device, and have been contemplating getting a safe fitted for a few years now. I have considered the Pro's and Con's for my personal situation.

First and foremost it must comply with the law , as I am a responsible firearm owner.
Last year I changed work , and no lock-up facilities are available.
The main purpose of the safe would be to lock up my FA while at work.
The secondary purpose would be for when I go camping (which we do a lot), and would like to go swimming and showering, and need a safe place to store my FA for a short time.

At no stage will I leave the FA in the safe , while the car is parked in a dodgy area. There is access control at work for the parking lot.While camping, the car will always be in sight/close proximity.

From all the statistics I have read , the risk of a house break-in is by far higher than a theft of a vehicle. I drive a Land Rover , which is a lower risk with regards to theft , if compared to Toyota, BMW and VW, ext. I also have a tracking unit installed.

What's important to me? Is to have my FA on me , and if not , easily accessible to me. A car safe makes this possible in my situation.

Can my car get stolen with the FA in the safe? Possible , but not Probable.
Can my FA be stolen when in my safe at home? Possible , the time it takes the security response to get there will determine how much time the burglars have.
Does a safe in my car allow me more accessibility to my FA? Definitely.

Now , to go visit the DFO , I really hope all goes well , seeing as a DFO already told me outright that a civilian is not allowed to store a FA in a car safe, even if it is professionaly installed, certified and complies with SABS 953-1 standard for B3 safes.
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Old June 1, 2018, 04:13 AM   #17
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I am not asking about whether they are a good idea or not, but rather, which one seems to work best. I have a sig p938. I drive a sedan. I have 2 young daughters, a very nervous wife a desire to have easy access to my firearm in my car.

What do you guys think?
From a woman's point of view....you have a "nervous wife" and "2 young daughters" but you want to have easy access to your firearm?

To begin with, this is not unusual at all. Most mothers, especially those who are not familiar with firearms, are very extremely nervous with loaded guns around their children. And it wouldn't be safe at all to have a loaded gun in the car at all times with the children in it.

Are you talking about every day or just on trips? You could lock your gun and keep it in a side pocket or console, if you can convince your wife it is safe for the children (and their friends). I have a feeling if your wife is nervous about guns she is going to be nervous about you wearing one in a holster as well.

Unless you can get your wife to take lessons and learn how to safely carry a gun in the car with young children, I suggest leaving it at home.

I have two daughters. One has an arsenal bigger than mine and can outshoot most men. The other is terrified of the sight of a gun. I don't know why but she is. She is also as protective as a mama bear over her children and she would throw a fit if her husband were to even suggest carrying a gun in the car.

There is more to owning a gun than just owning one and learning how to shoot it and getting a CC permit. There is also the responsibility of understanding the emotions of those around you who might be exposed to your firearms and the dangers of firearms around young children.

Ohhhhhh....I just saw the title of your post. "Car Safe". I'm sorry I didn't realize you were wanting to know what kind of safe to get. Yes, that would be a very good thing. Sorry about the rant.....yeah....get a safe and forget the holster. Your wife wouldn't like a holster. No way.
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I totally read that the other way. Sounded like the wife wanted to have easy access to a firearm. That is the way my wife was when the kids were little.
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I leave my gun in the door map pocket; is invisible not only form the outside as well as the passenger seat and is readily available.
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FITASC....do you have young children in the car with you? A nervous wife?

IMO a loaded gun in a car with children is a deadly combination. Unless it is in a childproof safe.
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Old June 1, 2018, 09:04 PM   #21
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Not any longer, and it wouldn't matter if I still did - the map pocket on the driver's side is only accessible by the driver.

Do not overthink and over complicate things

Perhaps the person should take their nervous wife to the gun range where she can get lessons from a female instructor; can really make a difference
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If you need to leave it in the car, like when you enter the Post Office, you might try the sunglass holder up where the inside lights are. That is, if the pistol is small enough. No one ever would think of it being there.
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From my understanding if you are in a USPS parking lot you might as well go all in and carry it. A USPS parking lot is just as illegal as carrying it.

Again from my understanding the only exception is if the USPS is in a mall somewhere.
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That is correct; and I am NOT advocating breaking the law; but if you find yourself at the last minute with your gun and having to go to a USPS location, the last thing I would do is carry it inside................
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From my understanding if you are in a USPS parking lot you might as well go all in and carry it. A USPS parking lot is just as illegal as carrying it.
Truth.

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If you need to leave it in the car, like when you enter the Post Office, you might try the sunglass holder up where the inside lights are. That is, if the pistol is small enough. No one ever would think of it being there.
Nope, they will be looking there for sunglasses to steal. When they find an unsecured gun: SCORE!
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Not in my neighborhood; this is a retirement area of old folks
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