1851 Navy Pepperbox .36 cal

noelf2 · October 1, 2016, 08:34 AM

Cabela's has the new(er) and better looking Pietta navy pepperbox for 199.00. With $10 off and free shipping at the moment, it's not a bad deal. I'm hoping a conversion cylinder becomes available at some point. Will be an interesting novelty. Backordered at the moment, and expected in about a week.

BlackPowderBen · October 1, 2016, 08:42 AM

Wow thanks for pointing us to that, they have a bunch of new stuff there!

Hawg · October 1, 2016, 08:53 AM

With nothing to support the arbor I don't see them lasting very long.

g.willikers · October 1, 2016, 08:59 AM

They are so goofy and cool looking.
Probably more for show and tell than shooting, though.
Definitely tempting.

noelf2 · October 1, 2016, 09:02 AM

Yeah light loads only. I was more concerned about the 44 than this 36. A combo cylinder could be made for just about any caliber an still work on the frame. I wonder if the arbor is mounted or otherwise different when a wedge isn't needed? I'll do a video or pics when I get it. Knowing Cabela's backorder time estimates are usually far from accurate, it could be months before I get it though.

g.willikers · October 1, 2016, 10:11 AM

I just had a look see.
It's not much of a pepper box replica.
More like a '51 Colt Navy with an extra long cylinder sans barrel.
Not what I was expecting.

noelf2 · October 1, 2016, 11:59 AM

That must be why they're calling it a 51 navy pepperbox...

Model12Win · October 1, 2016, 01:25 PM

Looks nothing like a real pepperbox.

I'm stunned that people would accept this or enjoy it.

noelf2 · October 1, 2016, 01:45 PM

Not sure why. We don't all enjoy the same things. It intrigues me for some reason. Funny that my father said the same thing about my TC Hawken when I brought it home in the 70's.

Strafer Gott · October 1, 2016, 01:46 PM

Looks like something for the C&B concealed crowd, heh-heh. If that is a standard frame, it doesn't buy you much more velocity than the forcing cone. Reduce the charge to 16 gr. volume buys you a little more time in tube, but not much. Still, it's going to do more than sting like the dickens at card table range. It's probably still fun, but it ain't a Walker by any stretch.

Hawg · October 1, 2016, 03:32 PM

They did exist but the original design was much better.

noelf2 · October 1, 2016, 03:35 PM

Hawg you beat me to it. I was going to post a pic of a similar pinfire.

g.willikers · October 1, 2016, 03:57 PM

Quote:

That must be why they're calling it a 51 navy pepperbox...

It takes years and years of practice to become a competent wise-*ss.

Wait your turn.

Strafer Gott · October 1, 2016, 06:47 PM

Uh-oh. Now I want an 1847 Walker pepperbox. No way that I'm butchering a Walker to get it, though it would buy you more barrel and charge capacity. If a boy had the money, he could have some fun, eh?

noelf2 · October 1, 2016, 06:55 PM

Quote:

It takes years and years of practice to become a competent wise-*ss.
Wait your turn.

Hawg · October 1, 2016, 08:13 PM

I'm not a wise *ss, I'm just a smart *ss.

detroiter711 · January 29, 2017, 12:19 AM

Anybody pick one of these up yet?

AKexpat · January 29, 2017, 03:56 PM

I think if one is a collector of replica Pietta pistols, this a "must have" because I don't think it will be available for a long time.

I collect Pietta 1851 Navy .36 Type pistols, but to me this is an anomaly. If you live in poisonous snake country, maybe. As a large belly gun, maybe.

Here is a thread from another forum about this pistol.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...#post-10471558

Mixed emotions all around.

Jim

detroiter711 · January 29, 2017, 05:34 PM

I am interested in picking one of these up even though it is more of a novelty.

Hawg · January 29, 2017, 07:30 PM

They've been out for quite some time.

Lee44ShooterCnB · January 31, 2017, 01:13 PM

Couple more threads

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...perbox.815052/

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph....727402/page-1

Ozzieman · February 2, 2017, 09:19 PM

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Piett...er/2373101.uts

That is a wearddd looking gun. I have a hard time believing it's a replica of anything.

Hawg · February 2, 2017, 09:49 PM

Quote:

That is a wearddd looking gun. I have a hard time believing it's a replica of anything.

It's not.

noelf2 · February 14, 2017, 12:43 PM

Resurrecting this thread from last year. On Cabela's there's an interesting review of the pepperbox:

"I enjoy collecting percussion revolvers and this one really captured my attention for a possible Cowboy Action Shooting side-match shooter. In case you are interested, this basic Colt Navy frame, when the 3-inch cylinder is removed, will receive a .36/.44 standard cylinder and .36/.44 barrel assembly, making this a convertible firearm. This revolver is an attention-getter among black powder enthusiasts, and also a truly manageable handgun in action."

So if you have an old pietta brass frame colt navy that's getting some frame stretch, this might be your answer.

BlackPowderBen · February 14, 2017, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Resurrecting this thread from last year. On Cabela's there's an interesting review of the pepperbox:

"I enjoy collecting percussion revolvers and this one really captured my attention for a possible Cowboy Action Shooting side-match shooter. In case you are interested, this basic Colt Navy frame, when the 3-inch cylinder is removed, will receive a .36/.44 standard cylinder and .36/.44 barrel assembly, making this a convertible firearm. This revolver is an attention-getter among black powder enthusiasts, and also a truly manageable handgun in action."

So if you have an old pietta brass frame colt navy that's getting some frame stretch, this might be your answer.

You've got me thinking now. I thought the arbor was larger on the pepperbox though, guess not.

October 1, 2016, 08:34 AM	#1
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	1851 Navy Pepperbox .36 cal Cabela's has the new(er) and better looking Pietta navy pepperbox for 199.00. With $10 off and free shipping at the moment, it's not a bad deal. I'm hoping a conversion cylinder becomes available at some point. Will be an interesting novelty. Backordered at the moment, and expected in about a week. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

October 1, 2016, 08:42 AM	#2
BlackPowderBen Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2015 Posts: 380	Wow thanks for pointing us to that, they have a bunch of new stuff there! __________________ "If you have to shoot, shoot! Dont talk"

October 1, 2016, 08:59 AM	#4
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	They are so goofy and cool looking. Probably more for show and tell than shooting, though. Definitely tempting. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

October 1, 2016, 09:02 AM	#5
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Yeah light loads only. I was more concerned about the 44 than this 36. A combo cylinder could be made for just about any caliber an still work on the frame. I wonder if the arbor is mounted or otherwise different when a wedge isn't needed? I'll do a video or pics when I get it. Knowing Cabela's backorder time estimates are usually far from accurate, it could be months before I get it though. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

October 1, 2016, 10:11 AM	#6
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	I just had a look see. It's not much of a pepper box replica. More like a '51 Colt Navy with an extra long cylinder sans barrel. Not what I was expecting. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

October 1, 2016, 08:53 AM	#3
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	With nothing to support the arbor I don't see them lasting very long.

October 1, 2016, 11:59 AM	#7
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	That must be why they're calling it a 51 navy pepperbox... __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

October 1, 2016, 01:25 PM	#8
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Looks nothing like a real pepperbox. I'm stunned that people would accept this or enjoy it.

October 1, 2016, 01:45 PM	#9
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Not sure why. We don't all enjoy the same things. It intrigues me for some reason. Funny that my father said the same thing about my TC Hawken when I brought it home in the 70's. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

October 1, 2016, 01:46 PM	#10
Strafer Gott Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,315	Looks like something for the C&B concealed crowd, heh-heh. If that is a standard frame, it doesn't buy you much more velocity than the forcing cone. Reduce the charge to 16 gr. volume buys you a little more time in tube, but not much. Still, it's going to do more than sting like the dickens at card table range. It's probably still fun, but it ain't a Walker by any stretch.

October 1, 2016, 03:32 PM	#11
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	They did exist but the original design was much better.

October 1, 2016, 03:35 PM	#12
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Hawg you beat me to it. I was going to post a pic of a similar pinfire. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither. Last edited by noelf2; October 1, 2016 at 03:53 PM.

October 1, 2016, 06:47 PM	#14
Strafer Gott Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,315	Uh-oh. Now I want an 1847 Walker pepperbox. No way that I'm butchering a Walker to get it, though it would buy you more barrel and charge capacity. If a boy had the money, he could have some fun, eh?

October 1, 2016, 08:13 PM	#16
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	I'm not a wise ss, I'm just a smart ss.

January 29, 2017, 12:19 AM	#17
detroiter711 Member Join Date: February 3, 2016 Posts: 21	Anybody pick one of these up yet?

January 29, 2017, 03:56 PM	#18
AKexpat Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2014 Location: SW WA State Posts: 490	I think if one is a collector of replica Pietta pistols, this a "must have" because I don't think it will be available for a long time. I collect Pietta 1851 Navy .36 Type pistols, but to me this is an anomaly. If you live in poisonous snake country, maybe. As a *large* belly gun, maybe. Here is a thread from another forum about this pistol. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...#post-10471558 Mixed emotions all around. Jim __________________ To be governed – is to be watched, inspected, directed, indoctrinated, numbered, estimated, regulated, commanded, controlled, law-driven, preached at, spied upon, censured, checked, valued, enrolled – by creatures who have neither the right, nor the wisdom, nor the virtue to do so. - Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

January 29, 2017, 05:34 PM	#19
detroiter711 Member Join Date: February 3, 2016 Posts: 21	I am interested in picking one of these up even though it is more of a novelty.

January 29, 2017, 07:30 PM	#20
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	They've been out for quite some time.

January 31, 2017, 01:13 PM	#21
Lee44ShooterCnB Member Join Date: May 13, 2015 Location: Ga. Posts: 68	Pepperbox Couple more threads https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...perbox.815052/ https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph....727402/page-1

February 2, 2017, 09:19 PM	#22
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 6,117	http://www.cabelas.com/product/Piett...er/2373101.uts That is a wearddd looking gun. I have a hard time believing it's a replica of anything. __________________ It was a sad day when I discovered my universal remote control did not in fact control the universe. Did you hear about the latest study.....5 out of 6 liberals say that Russian Roulette is safe.

February 14, 2017, 12:43 PM	#24
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Resurrecting this thread from last year. On Cabela's there's an interesting review of the pepperbox: "I enjoy collecting percussion revolvers and this one really captured my attention for a possible Cowboy Action Shooting side-match shooter. In case you are interested, this basic Colt Navy frame, when the 3-inch cylinder is removed, will receive a .36/.44 standard cylinder and .36/.44 barrel assembly, making this a convertible firearm. This revolver is an attention-getter among black powder enthusiasts, and also a truly manageable handgun in action." So if you have an old pietta brass frame colt navy that's getting some frame stretch, this might be your answer. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

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