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March 11, 2020, 09:01 PM | #1 |
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Disposing of live primers
I have some primers that were smashed in the priming process on my Dillon 550b (everybody that has a 550b knows about the primer feed issues it has).
These primers cannot be used but are still live. Anybody have a suggestion how to dispose of them.
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March 11, 2020, 09:03 PM | #2 |
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I believe it was my Speer manual that said to soak them in motor oil to kill them.
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March 12, 2020, 07:12 AM | #4 |
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when I have live primers that I am gonna throw away, I normally just toss them into my burn barrel when I burn my paper trash. Probably not the safest way, but it works. Be aware doing it this way does set them off so I wouldn't watch the flames with out eye protection.
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March 12, 2020, 12:30 PM | #6 |
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"...Probably not the safest way..." Burning 'em won't cause any issues except a really big stupid grin. There is not containment for any kind of velocity to build. Isn't likely the primer cup would be blown into wee bits either for the same reason.
Just pitching 'em is an option. A lot depends on what your local municipality does with its garbage. If it gets burned, nobody will know there was a primer any more than if it gets buried or dumped in the ocean. A primer is just as likely to go bang if it gets squished by a bulldozer. Primers being percussive things. "...been covered here and..." Argued about at length you mean. snicker. It's more about oil, of any kind, not being reliable.
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The only legal means that I am aware of is a controlled burn (same thing for waste powder).
If you burn them, be careful and use containment. The anvil and cup can potentially, and usually do, become projectiles. My personal method? Garbage can - usually inside of a bottle of whatever waste liquid got thrown away that week. (Water, shampoo, ketchup, whatever...) The way that waste is processed in my area means that no person faces potential injury from a primer detonation (even if not in a bottle), and the cell in which my household trash is dumped is supposedly rated for full containment of hazardous materials. So, I'm not worried about it. My choice is not entirely legal. But live primer disposal is not exactly a frequent problem. I weigh the factors and opt for the garbage can.
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Depending upon where a person dumps the powder, it could hurt something. I avoid the "could" or "might" ... and just burn it. I stand before you, with arms open. Let he who is not a pyromaniac throw the first stone.
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How many? The odd crushed primer just goes in the trash. I haven't heard of a garbage volcano at the landfill yet.
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Just last year, I burned more than seven pounds over a couple camping trips. There's about a pound and a half that has been pulled down since then. I did also get hit by the Accurate 4350 recall, with two 1-lb canisters showing degradation. Three pounds of that need to be burned, now. (But I shot what was already loaded.)
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My trash goes in the trash can.
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Shampoo grenade!
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Just how many are you talking about? Ball peen hammer has always worked fine for me.
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I have popped them off (face shield, ear protein, heavy gloves) and fired them off if in a case (powder and bullets gone or course).
No real solutions, maybe acid to dissolve the compound but has to get through the (seal?) that protects it.
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Cover before hammering !!!
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I would also add that I cover the cap with a piece of towel, in order to catch any primer pieces. Be Safe !!!
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In the trash they go. Hardly remember the last time I had to trash one. No biggie.
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I talked to the range master where I shoot, he said just throw them in the bucket. Made sure he knew what I was doing, I guess the recycler doesn’t care.
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March 15, 2020, 11:21 AM | #23 |
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One difference between these crushed primers and intact and uncorrupted primers is the pellet and any sealant are all likely cracked. So where a new, intact primer can be extraordinarily resistant to solvents and oils neutralizing them, I'm not so sure that would prove to be true of a mangled one. I would call the primer maker and ask them rather than rely on second-hand information from companies that don't make them.
I assume the live ammo disposal containers at any range will be removed for proper disposal, which will probably be an incinerator. Our local fire department will dispose of ol ammunition, and I presume it gets sent out for the appropriate treatment.
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March 15, 2020, 01:59 PM | #24 |
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Huh! Probably 100 k rounds + thru my RL550B - never had a crushed primer. Just saying.
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March 15, 2020, 06:42 PM | #25 |
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I've crushed a few in my RL450 by misidentifying a large primer tube for the small primer tube. When they get dispensed out the bottom anything can happen. Yea, I know, dumb, but I have those aluminum tubes color coded now.
On the other hand a primer can get fairly mangled if a crimped pocket slips through unprocessed.
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