4mm Flobert?

**Aguila Blanca** · January 28, 2020, 07:28 PM

Has anyone ever heard of it? I've heard of 6mm Flobert (it's basically a .22 BB cap), but I was looking at the web page of a Czech company that makes revolvers and I came across reference to 4mm Flobert. I wondered if anyone has ever encountered it.

http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/...rt-4-mm-randz/

As long as you have the link -- has anyone ever seen or shot or owned one of this company's revolvers? Like the ammunition, I had never heard of them. I found a couple of their guns at the SHOT Show last week and I'm curious to know if they're any good, or if tey're junk.

Geezerbiker · January 29, 2020, 04:00 AM

I used to have a 4mm Flobert round in my cartridge collection but I lost it many years ago.

A friend of my bother had a Swiss schuetzen rifle in this round and he gave me one round for my collection. This was at least 40 years ago...

Both my brother and his friend are no longer with us so I don't have anyone to ask about.

Tony

ThomasT · January 31, 2020, 08:52 PM

4mm shows to be .157 of an inch. So .020 smaller than a .177 pellet from an airgun. I have never seen one but that round would give new meaning to the term "mouse gun".

Jim Watson · January 31, 2020, 09:54 PM

I always heard it as 4mm Zimmerstutzen, the "parlor gun" largely replaced by good air rifles. I did not know of the revolvers, but they make sense under Euro gun control.

January 28, 2020, 07:28 PM	#1
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,459	4mm Flobert? Has anyone ever heard of it? I've heard of 6mm Flobert (it's basically a .22 BB cap), but I was looking at the web page of a Czech company that makes revolvers and I came across reference to 4mm Flobert. I wondered if anyone has ever encountered it. http://www.alfa-proj.cz/en/products/...rt-4-mm-randz/ As long as you have the link -- has anyone ever seen or shot or owned one of this company's revolvers? Like the ammunition, I had never heard of them. I found a couple of their guns at the SHOT Show last week and I'm curious to know if they're any good, or if tey're junk. __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

January 29, 2020, 04:00 AM	#2
Geezerbiker Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Location: Willamina, OR Posts: 1,908	I used to have a 4mm Flobert round in my cartridge collection but I lost it many years ago. A friend of my bother had a Swiss schuetzen rifle in this round and he gave me one round for my collection. This was at least 40 years ago... Both my brother and his friend are no longer with us so I don't have anyone to ask about. Tony

January 31, 2020, 08:52 PM	#3
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,753	4mm shows to be .157 of an inch. So .020 smaller than a .177 pellet from an airgun. I have never seen one but that round would give new meaning to the term "mouse gun".

January 31, 2020, 09:54 PM	#4
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,535	I always heard it as 4mm Zimmerstutzen, the "parlor gun" largely replaced by good air rifles. I did not know of the revolvers, but they make sense under Euro gun control.