Will a new Pietta 1851 cylinder fit an old Pietta gun?

MuzzleBlast · January 13, 2014, 03:23 PM

I have an old Pietta 1851 brass framed .44. It has "Navy Arms Co. Ridgefield N.J." marked on the barrel. When it was given to me it was rusted up solid. I am still unable to get the nipples loose. I found out the hard way that the replacement Pietta internal parts from Cabela's do not fit. What are the chances a new replacement cylinder would fit?

maillemaker · January 13, 2014, 04:05 PM

Have you tried soaking the cylinder in a mixture of 50/50 transmission fluid and acetone?

Steve

Doc Hoy · January 13, 2014, 06:33 PM

I could be wrong but my guess is not much chance.

I like MM's idea of soaking it in ATF and Acetone soup. This mixture has a tendency to separate and you might check it quite often to shake it up.

Another option is PB Blaster. There is reason why nearly every fleet vehicle maintenance shop buys it by the case.

The other thing is that if it is old and if it is Navy Arms, it is likely not from Pietta. More likely from ASP unless you have a marking on it that mentions Pietta.

That is not good news since ASP parts are like hen's teeth.

On the other hand, if it is a Pietta after all even some Pietta parts will require fitting in order to work right.

Hawg · January 13, 2014, 07:53 PM

The bolt notches are different on the newer ones. If I'm not badly mistaken they're wider.

g.willikers · January 14, 2014, 06:22 PM

If all that's wrong with the cylinder is that the nipples have become permanently fixed, why not just leave it that way.
Unless there's something wrong with them, and need replacing, that is.
My old cap and ball revolver has had the nipples frozen for many years.
It doesn't know it and shoots as good as ever.

Driftwood Johnson · January 14, 2014, 06:47 PM

Howdy

Are you sure it is a Pietta? I bought this 44 Caliber brass framed 'Navy' at the Navy Arms Ridgefield show room when I was a kid in 1968. It was made by Uberti, not Pietta. The marking representing the muzzle of a revolver with a U in the middle is Uberti's trademark.

Captainkirk · January 14, 2014, 11:49 PM

Driftwood, that is a gorgeous Uberti brasser!

January 13, 2014, 03:23 PM	#1
MuzzleBlast Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2001 Location: Arkansas. Much better place since Bill and Hillary went home. Posts: 1,041	Will a new Pietta 1851 cylinder fit an old Pietta gun? I have an old Pietta 1851 brass framed .44. It has "Navy Arms Co. Ridgefield N.J." marked on the barrel. When it was given to me it was rusted up solid. I am still unable to get the nipples loose. I found out the hard way that the replacement Pietta internal parts from Cabela's do not fit. What are the chances a new replacement cylinder would fit? __________________ Molwn labe!

January 13, 2014, 06:33 PM	#3
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	MB... I could be wrong but my guess is not much chance. I like MM's idea of soaking it in ATF and Acetone soup. This mixture has a tendency to separate and you might check it quite often to shake it up. Another option is PB Blaster. There is reason why nearly every fleet vehicle maintenance shop buys it by the case. The other thing is that if it is old and if it is Navy Arms, it is likely not from Pietta. More likely from ASP unless you have a marking on it that mentions Pietta. That is not good news since ASP parts are like hen's teeth. On the other hand, if it is a Pietta after all even some Pietta parts will require fitting in order to work right. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

January 14, 2014, 06:22 PM	#5
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	If all that's wrong with the cylinder is that the nipples have become permanently fixed, why not just leave it that way. Unless there's something wrong with them, and need replacing, that is. My old cap and ball revolver has had the nipples frozen for many years. It doesn't know it and shoots as good as ever. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

January 14, 2014, 11:49 PM	#7
Captainkirk Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2012 Posts: 144	Driftwood, that is a gorgeous Uberti brasser! __________________ "You gonna pull those pistols, or whistle Dixie?"

January 13, 2014, 04:05 PM	#2
maillemaker Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2010 Posts: 1,635	Have you tried soaking the cylinder in a mixture of 50/50 transmission fluid and acetone? Steve

January 13, 2014, 07:53 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	The bolt notches are different on the newer ones. If I'm not badly mistaken they're wider.

January 14, 2014, 06:47 PM	#6
Driftwood Johnson Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2014 Location: Land of the Pilgrims Posts: 2,033	Howdy Are you sure it is a Pietta? I bought this 44 Caliber brass framed 'Navy' at the Navy Arms Ridgefield show room when I was a kid in 1968. It was made by Uberti, not Pietta. The marking representing the muzzle of a revolver with a U in the middle is Uberti's trademark.