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Old October 17, 2010, 06:12 PM   #1
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Muzzleloader bullet and powder question

I am trying to see what kind of loadings everyone uses. So what kind of bullet do you use and how much powder in grains? I have a CVA Wolf Magnum with a 26 inch barrel.
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Old October 17, 2010, 06:50 PM   #2
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It help if we knew the caliber?

I use a T/C New Englander, .50Cal., and use the 177gr round ball over 70 grs.,of FFg.
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Old October 17, 2010, 08:02 PM   #3
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I shoot a .54 Hawken style with 100gr of FFG and a patched round ball (226gr), never needed anything more.
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Old October 17, 2010, 09:28 PM   #4
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AdamSean,
You may have better response success asking the mods to move your question to the Black Powder/Muzzleloader forum.

Never-the-less, most CVA'S shoot the easy loading Powerbelt boolits fairly well. You just have to be careful and not overcharge them. I shoot a 195gr. aerotip Powerbelt with 90grns. American Pioneer powder out of a Rem 700M/L.

A fellow TFL member and very knowledgable M/L shooter(especially CVA's) named Pahoo would be of great assistance to you.
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Old October 17, 2010, 10:02 PM   #5
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Hawken 54 cal

Hornady 425 gr. Great Plains over 90 gr Hodgen triple 7 and a CCI #11. Chronied three rounds and they averaged 1435 fps. Son shot a 6 x 6 elk at maybe 80 yards and it died right there. Would use that for anything out to 130-150 yards. Cept Grizzley.
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Old October 18, 2010, 12:27 AM   #6
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.54 Lyman GPR. 80gr of 2F Triple 7 and a pillow ticking patched roundball.
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Old October 20, 2010, 05:10 PM   #7
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54 cal Hawken

.53 cal ball, lubed pillow ticking patch, 70 gr ffg. If I use any more powder the patches begin to burn through around the edges of the ball.
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Old October 20, 2010, 07:44 PM   #8
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I use Hornady .50 cal 230 gr sst's over 2 pellets (about 100 gr) of triple seven. Of the 2 deer I have shot during muzzleloader season, both have been down within 20 yds.
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Old October 20, 2010, 08:18 PM   #9
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I use 250 Grain 45 caliber XTP hollow points with sabots in my 50 caliber sidelock with 60 grains of Pyrodex. It doesn't have enough twist to shoot any more powder than that. But, I have killed some big bucks with it.
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Old October 20, 2010, 09:16 PM   #10
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In my T/C Omega (50 CAL.) I shoot 295 grain powerbelts over 90 grains of Blackhorn 209 powder. I have never had to shoot more than 90 grains of any powder and have killed deer with no problems.
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Old October 21, 2010, 07:17 PM   #11
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.50 cal. Knight DISC rifle - 3 - 50 gr. Triple-7 pellets pushing a Hornady 300 gr. SST-ML in a lock-n-load sabot.

.50 cal. TC White Mountain carbine with a 240 gr. .44 cal Hornady XTP pistol bullet in the green sabot over 100 grains of loose Pyrodex RS Select.

Both loads are very accurate in the Knight and I use the first load for open country hunting and the XTP load in the woods. I only use the XTP load in the TC carbine.
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Old October 21, 2010, 09:06 PM   #12
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I have the same muzzle loader and mine shoots the best with 100 grains of pyrodex pellets and saboted 240 grain hornady XTPs. i can get 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards with this load.
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Old October 22, 2010, 09:33 AM   #13
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In my Accura I have been using 90gr of Blackhorn and 245 powerbelt aerotips, but have been working wiht Hornaday FTB or whatever in 350gr, with 110gr of Blackhorn.
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Old October 22, 2010, 10:07 AM   #14
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Fired from a 50 Savage ML10, I can tell you that the 45cal 300gr Barnes Original bullet makes a hole in deer like nothing else that I've ever seen.

Honest to God, 4 inch exit hole. Not just 4 inches of blood around a 1 inch hole. A complete, blown to shreds, 4 inch hole.

The exit was through the shoulder, but I've seen that many, many times before with nothing spectacular to say about. This deer was literally missing a 4 inch circle in it's shoulder.
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Old October 22, 2010, 10:16 AM   #15
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For whitetail deer, with my .45 cal. flintlock I used a patched round ball and 65 grains of black powder. Very adequate.
With my .54 Jaeger flintlock and the possibility of a black bear, I use a patched round ball and 90 grains of black powder.

ELarsen: If you are using a .530 ball and burning patches, I suggest you go up to a .535 ball since you are not getting a good seal. Accuracy will improve also.
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Old October 22, 2010, 08:01 PM   #16
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Hornady 250gn SST in a low-drag sabot (same thing as the T/C shockwave made by Hornady but sells for lower cost), 100grn 777 with a 777 primer. Deadly accurate.
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Old October 22, 2010, 08:12 PM   #17
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.54 Caliber TC Scout 435grn Maxi-Hunter and 100grn FFG
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Old October 22, 2010, 08:45 PM   #18
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.54 custom Hawken. .530 round ball, 90 grs. of Pyrodex with .015 pillow ticking patches. If you're burning patches it's cheaper to change patch thickness than to change ball size.
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Old October 25, 2010, 02:48 PM   #19
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Savage 10ML-II with a 300 grain hornady FXP and 40 grains of V110.

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Old October 25, 2010, 09:43 PM   #20
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In my .54 caliber Traditions Hawken-
I used to stuff 90 grains (by volume) of 3F under a patched round ball (~230 gr) for "long range" hunting, and 75 grains for a slightly more accurate load.

I never used sabots.
Mini-balls, "Plains Bullets", "Buffalo Bullets", and other conical projectiles never worked well in that rifle. Its rate of twist wasn't fast enough, so I stuck with round balls.
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Old October 26, 2010, 05:36 PM   #21
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T/C Encore, .50 cal. I shoot a 250 grain PowerBelt sabot, using 90 grains of Blackhorn 209.
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