Pawn Shop treasures

Buzzard · August 27, 2008, 01:12 PM

Well I just got my 2 finds from laYWAY at the pawn shop.
The first one is
CVA /JUKAR .45 cal Kentucky style. It is in GOOD shape, no rust or pitting
to be found and the stock is in real good shape.

only paid 55.00 for it

The 2nd one is
ASM steel frame 1858 .44. it locks up tight, looks good, and has no rust or pitting. Has nice looking riffeling in the barrel, the frame is steel with brass plating that is wearing some. The Cylinder is black and so is the barrel.

Before I post price can anyone give me a rough idea as to the value.

Raider2000 · August 27, 2008, 01:34 PM

You sure that it is not a Brass Frame on that ASM '58?

The reason I'm asking is that I've yet to see a Brass Plated Frame on any Replica C&B Revolver.

Buzzard · August 27, 2008, 01:50 PM

When I take the Cylinder out the inside of the frame looks to be steel.

w_houle · August 27, 2008, 02:32 PM

I think you will find if you brasso that up that dark discoloration will go away to reveal more brass. The only things I can think of that would require brass plating are certain non ferrous metals and plastic, for chrome plating. Now that is not to say that you cannot brass plate something before chrome plating, but it shows more in wear, chips easier, and just generally looks cheaper than if you were to chrome steel. Being that it is an 1858 and the frame being all the same material; all you would have to do is take the grips off and scratch the inside of the frame under the grips. If under there you find that you can find steel under brass, then you have something I have never seen before.

Raider2000 · August 27, 2008, 02:48 PM

Magnet!

Even if it is Plated, a magnet will cling to Steel & Iron but not to Brass, Aluminum, Magnesium ect..

Buzzard · August 27, 2008, 03:58 PM

Magnet sticks right to it....or so I thought, the magnets I used was real strong ones and I took the cylinder out and tried it again...no sticking...
Hmmm Guess it is brass...fooled me.
OK now anyone got any idea what it is worth.
Thanks

Hawg · August 27, 2008, 04:46 PM

I'd say 75.00 ASM quality was hit or miss to say the least.

Buzzard · August 27, 2008, 05:46 PM

I paid 99.00 for this one and am very happy with it...now I got to gather all the items for shooting

**4V50 Gary** · August 27, 2008, 06:30 PM

You did yourself proud.

straight-shooter · August 27, 2008, 07:41 PM

One trick I use for polishing brass is to mix vinegar with salt. Then let the two set for about 15 minutes to let the salt start to dissolve into the vinegar then stir. Soak some up with a wash cloth and rub the brass. Presto, a very nice looking brass will shine !

johnsodl · August 28, 2008, 08:09 PM

Buzzard - that is one interesting work bench picture. There are all kinds of cool things to look at. I love it.

Buzzard · August 28, 2008, 08:20 PM

The work bench "messy place" os a mixtur for sure, I reload,I have my ham radio gear there and I also build a few electronic projects too.
As it is I have everything in perfect chaos...I just stir untill what I need comes to the top.

August 27, 2008, 02:32 PM	#4
w_houle Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,391	I think you will find if you brasso that up that dark discoloration will go away to reveal more brass. The only things I can think of that would require brass plating are certain non ferrous metals and plastic, for chrome plating. Now that is not to say that you cannot brass plate something before chrome plating, but it shows more in wear, chips easier, and just generally looks cheaper than if you were to chrome steel. Being that it is an 1858 and the frame being all the same material; all you would have to do is take the grips off and scratch the inside of the frame under the grips. If under there you find that you can find steel under brass, then you have something I have never seen before. __________________ How could you have a slogan like "freedom is slavery" when the concept of freedom has been abolished?

August 27, 2008, 03:58 PM	#6
Buzzard Senior Member Join Date: July 13, 2005 Location: Kingman AZ Posts: 479	Magnet sticks right to it....or so I thought, the magnets I used was real strong ones and I took the cylinder out and tried it again...no sticking... Hmmm Guess it is brass...fooled me. OK now anyone got any idea what it is worth. Thanks __________________ Rick in Kingman AZ , Super Comanche 45LC/410 , ,Armscor .38 4, Marlin 60 & An UGLY 12ga , Savage Axis .223

August 27, 2008, 05:46 PM	#8
Buzzard Senior Member Join Date: July 13, 2005 Location: Kingman AZ Posts: 479	I paid 99.00 for this one and am very happy with it...now I got to gather all the items for shooting __________________ Rick in Kingman AZ , Super Comanche 45LC/410 , ,Armscor .38 4, Marlin 60 & An UGLY 12ga , Savage Axis .223

August 27, 2008, 06:30 PM	#9
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,840	You did yourself proud. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

August 28, 2008, 08:20 PM	#12
Buzzard Senior Member Join Date: July 13, 2005 Location: Kingman AZ Posts: 479	The work bench "messy place" os a mixtur for sure, I reload,I have my ham radio gear there and I also build a few electronic projects too. As it is I have everything in perfect chaos...I just stir untill what I need comes to the top. __________________ Rick in Kingman AZ , Super Comanche 45LC/410 , ,Armscor .38 4, Marlin 60 & An UGLY 12ga , Savage Axis .223

August 27, 2008, 01:34 PM	#2
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	You sure that it is not a Brass Frame on that ASM '58? The reason I'm asking is that I've yet to see a Brass Plated Frame on any Replica C&B Revolver.

August 27, 2008, 02:48 PM	#5
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	Magnet! Even if it is Plated, a magnet will cling to Steel & Iron but not to Brass, Aluminum, Magnesium ect..

August 27, 2008, 04:46 PM	#7
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	I'd say 75.00 ASM quality was hit or miss to say the least.

August 27, 2008, 07:41 PM	#10
straight-shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2007 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 436	One trick I use for polishing brass is to mix vinegar with salt. Then let the two set for about 15 minutes to let the salt start to dissolve into the vinegar then stir. Soak some up with a wash cloth and rub the brass. Presto, a very nice looking brass will shine !

August 28, 2008, 08:09 PM	#11
johnsodl Junior Member Join Date: July 13, 2008 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 12	Buzzard - that is one interesting work bench picture. There are all kinds of cool things to look at. I love it.