Help ID Remington 1863 New Model Army?

HunterC · September 27, 2017, 01:18 PM

I recently had what I think is a Remington 1863 New Model Army come into my possession. Is anyone familiar with this model and be able possible confirm this. The gun shows heavy wear and the barrel legend is almost completely gone. I can make out the start of "Patent", the end of "New York", and what looks like the top of the word "Model". I think the grips and the front sight have been replaced. Serial number is 37022 and matches on the underside of the barrel and on the grip. If it is authentic I think it may have been made around August of 1863? Is any able to confirm any of this? Let me know what you think! Thanks

Smoke & Recoil · September 27, 2017, 02:37 PM

You have an 1858 Remington, .44 caliber. Looks original to my old eyes.
Great find...but where, price you paid if any...etc.

Hawg · September 27, 2017, 03:04 PM

September of 63. Front sight and grips aren't original.

Smoke & Recoil · September 27, 2017, 06:29 PM

Can you post pictures of the back side of the grip panels ?

rodwhaincamo · September 27, 2017, 06:48 PM

1858 is the patent date of the base pin/ loading lever assembly and not that pistol model made from 1863 and on, no?

Hawg · September 27, 2017, 07:51 PM

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Can you post pictures of the back side of the grip panels ?

They look homemade, they don't fit and the screw is going in from the wrong side.

bedbugbilly · September 27, 2017, 07:58 PM

Just for interest -

Colt was selling their 1860 Model Army (44) to the government for $25/unit (individual pistol). When Remington began production of these, they undercut Colt by half, selling them to the government for $12.50/unit.

September 27, 2017, 01:18 PM	#1
HunterC Junior Member Join Date: September 26, 2017 Posts: 1	Help ID Remington 1863 New Model Army? I recently had what I think is a Remington 1863 New Model Army come into my possession. Is anyone familiar with this model and be able possible confirm this. The gun shows heavy wear and the barrel legend is almost completely gone. I can make out the start of "Patent", the end of "New York", and what looks like the top of the word "Model". I think the grips and the front sight have been replaced. Serial number is 37022 and matches on the underside of the barrel and on the grip. If it is authentic I think it may have been made around August of 1863? Is any able to confirm any of this? Let me know what you think! Thanks

September 27, 2017, 02:37 PM	#2
Smoke & Recoil Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: East shore of Lake Michigan. Posts: 714	You have an 1858 Remington, .44 caliber. Looks original to my old eyes. Great find...but where, price you paid if any...etc. __________________ Sent from my Tandy 1000

September 27, 2017, 06:29 PM	#4
Smoke & Recoil Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: East shore of Lake Michigan. Posts: 714	Can you post pictures of the back side of the grip panels ? __________________ Sent from my Tandy 1000

September 27, 2017, 07:58 PM	#7
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	Just for interest - Colt was selling their 1860 Model Army (44) to the government for $25/unit (individual pistol). When Remington began production of these, they undercut Colt by half, selling them to the government for $12.50/unit. __________________ If a pair of '51 Navies were good enough for Billy Hickok, then a single Navy on my right hip is good enough for me . . . besides . . . I'm probably only half as good as he was anyways. Hiram's Rangers Badge #63

September 27, 2017, 03:04 PM	#3
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,189	September of 63. Front sight and grips aren't original.

September 27, 2017, 06:48 PM	#5
rodwhaincamo Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,246	1858 is the patent date of the base pin/ loading lever assembly and not that pistol model made from 1863 and on, no?