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March 23, 2013, 03:43 AM | #26 |
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Perspective: joking aside and ego aside, and I can't see any civilian job being worth that risk. I hope you can stay safe with what you are carrying, but if you were my little brother or something, I would be badgering you about why you were doing this... Stay safe!
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March 23, 2013, 06:43 AM | #27 |
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March 23, 2013, 07:02 AM | #28 |
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If you can't find a better method of getting your cash to the bank, then you may want to consider hardening your vehicle.
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March 23, 2013, 07:33 AM | #29 |
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Any good used Armored Trucks out there?
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March 23, 2013, 07:58 AM | #30 | |
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Best caliber for situation described.
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If he doesn't feel his .45 and 9mm back up is enough then so be it. I carried the way I described on duty. And OP. If you're just taking precautions and don't have a reason to feel the way you do. Don't sweat it too much. Laws of attraction apply here. I want to know why you feel this way. Something happen there in the past? Or to you? I tick the way I do from real time experience and others to avoid what could happen. Best way to safety, is not be there when it happens. Think of the guns as a last resort. Last edited by Spats McGee; March 23, 2013 at 08:16 AM. Reason: Trying to end bickering |
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March 23, 2013, 08:12 AM | #31 |
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Please quit the bickering, folks. The OP asked a question, so let's do our best to answer it without fighting amongst ourselves.
Edited to add: I've now gone in and edited several posts to eliminate the aforementioned bickering. I would appreciate it if everyone could just lay that aside and get back to the OP's questions.
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March 23, 2013, 08:58 AM | #32 |
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The answer to your question is what ever you shoot best it's all about placement A .50AE Desert Eagle does no good if you can't hit anything with it. I would start with the bank runs by always going a different way do not have paterns.Also invest in soft body armor rather than a different gun when what you have is more than enough in my opinion.
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March 23, 2013, 09:24 AM | #33 |
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The original question was if there is a caliber that is better suited than my .45 to deal with the specific scenario I described. That situation involved an attempted robbery where one is in their car and the assailant is either in their car or outside with a vest. This situation would obviously include having to fire thru your own and or probably the bad guys windshield/car as well.
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March 23, 2013, 09:36 AM | #34 | |
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To the OP, there aren't enough differences among pistol calibers in order for me to recommend one over the other for your situation. I would honestly recommend having a shotgun or rifle in the car as backup if you feel that concerned. I fail to see what another pistol brings to the situation. Edit: I also think investing in body armor, as suggested by multiple members, would be a good idea.
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March 23, 2013, 10:23 AM | #38 |
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Just seems this is going the wrong direction and i don't want to see a law enforcement officer/trooper loose his life because someone told him how to shoot through a vest on a forum.
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March 23, 2013, 10:37 AM | #39 |
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general impression I have gotten is the pistol caliber really doesn't make too much of a difference in this situation.
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March 23, 2013, 10:50 AM | #40 |
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Two pistols. Multiple Interchangeable Mags Shotgun in vehicle. Different routes Different branch of the same bank Maybe even accounts at different banks As for caliber I would say 9 mm for the best capacity. You should also learn to drive defensively. Don't allow yourself to get boxed in. Driving away from a gun fight beats attempting to win one. |
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March 23, 2013, 12:16 PM | #42 |
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Have you thought about a safer job
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March 23, 2013, 05:15 PM | #43 |
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Wow, a .45 and a 9mm and you still feel you might be undergunned? Have you considered a 10mm? Or if you really wanna feel gunned up...get a .454 Casul!!
Btw, if someone is wearing a Vest and you put a few rounds COM from your .45, they probably aren't going to be feeling to well or even standing, regardless. |
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Big555 here's a couple of links on the 7.62x25 round you might find interesting.
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...etration-Issue http://www.gunsnet.net/showthread.ph...-a-nato-helmut Seems like this answers your question pretty well on round penetration. Classic Firearms has them for $229 in excellent condition. http://www.classicfirearms.com/c-r-e...tokarev-pistol
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scrubcedar, thanks I may order one come Monday
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March 23, 2013, 09:22 PM | #46 |
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Anytime, glad to be of service.
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March 23, 2013, 09:45 PM | #47 |
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If that's not enough firepower for you I would probably go with a .357 or .44 magnum. Or an FN FiveseveN
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March 23, 2013, 10:29 PM | #48 |
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If you are asking about needing an additional high-capacity pistol in addition to what you are already carrying, I would assume you are concerned about an extended gunfight with multiple BGs and a lot of bullets flying. In that scenario, I would carry an AR-15 with several 30rd mags in the vehicle. I don't believe an additional pistol is not going to help much.
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March 23, 2013, 11:40 PM | #49 |
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1. Have everyone write you checks or have a certified check from a bank.
2. Buy a Smart Phone and download the app where you can take a picture of a check to have instant deposits. Ok, just kidding. To answer your question, either a 357 SIG or load up your 9mm with some +P or +P+. 357 SIG is a beast for penetration and +P 9mm can get you within +/- 50 FPS of the SIG. Maybe an AR pistol?? |
March 23, 2013, 11:49 PM | #50 |
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Again, I appreciate the responses, but if you paid attention to my posts I am not envisioning a big shoot out. I am merely asking if anyone has insight as too which caliber would be best suited to passing through windshields and possibly a vest while retaining stopping power. That's it. I don't want a third gun or second bug. I am looking for a single cartridge that would preform best.
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