May 13, 2009, 03:01 PM | #1 |
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Best Caps
I have a newly aquired Ruger old army. I have read that there were some cap problems in the beginning and that the new nipples are all #11. I have the new nipples installed. Now what is the best cap for this revolver?
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May 13, 2009, 03:15 PM | #2 |
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check out the cci #11 magnums and then the remington #11s that offer 40% more flame.
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May 13, 2009, 05:53 PM | #3 |
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Anybody try the winchester 777s?
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May 13, 2009, 06:32 PM | #4 |
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Winchester 777's are 209 primers intended for use with inline rifles shooting 777 powder/pellets. 209's require a special nipple to use them which aren't made for C&B revolvers because they're much too large.
The Winchester #11 percussion caps appear to be made by CCI and then re-labeled as Winchesters. |
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You may have to try all the different brands/sizes to find the ones that fit best. IME #10 Remingtons fit my Colt style revolvers with Treso nipples the best and old stock RWS 1075s a close second. Slight pressure when installing them with a TDC revolver (snail) capper seats them so they fire first time every time. Your Mileage may vary. FM
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Cap size is inconsistent between manufacturers and even between production lots with the same manufacture. A member here, mykeal has done considerable measuring of different cap brands/sizes and has a chart of the results. I'm sure he well be along and post that up. The future compound the issue, nipples run a full gambit of sizes. Buy several brands of both #10 and #11 caps and find what fits that particular revolver. As for the caps you don't use....buy another revolver |
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The caps that fit are the best. Personally, no luck with Winchester #11 Magnums (repackaged CCI). Have had good luck thus far with Remington #10s and #11s on my ROA with factory nipples. The next production run of caps from all these manufacturers and the answer will probably change. |
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I find the #10 CCI's fit the best for mine, I have to pinch the #11's. BUT the #11's when pinched seem to give me better ignition with less misfires. It's very subjective. Buy a tin of each size in both brands and test them all out. When I buy caps I still get a tin of #10 and a tin of #11 simultaneously because I still haven't decided my final verdict yet.
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The caveats: 1) Opening diameter is very difficult to measure. These numbers are probably +/- 0.002 to 0.004. 2) Average of at least 20 samples of each brand & size. 3) Others have gotten different answers, and I've found that different batches of the same brand and size can vary considerably. You don't get three decimal place precision for 4 cents. |
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Thanks guys! I will measure the nipples and go from there. The chart will be very helpful.
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There's a BIG difference between brands. I just bought some Remington #10 that measure (inside diameter) about the same (actually .003 larger) as the CCI #11. The chart in the previous post confirms this.
For my 1858 Remington, CCI #10 is too small, and I have to pinch CCI #11s CCI #10 fits my Walker perfectly, but Remington #10 and #11 are BOTH too large. I think we need some Obama federal legislation on cap size standards. |
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Clembert is right on. That measurement is difficult to make with the precision necessary, and in any case the caps vary a great deal from batch to batch, so the information is likely worthless. Just buy some and try them - it's really all you can do.
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Nipples vary from batch to batch too...so if/when you find a brand/size of cap that works with your pistol, don't necessarily assume that - should you acquire another pistol of same make and model - the same caps will fit it.
Although I would expect Ruger to have tighter QC than the Italian brands. |
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Admiral B - very good point.
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Who sells Treso nipples?
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