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February 22, 2018, 12:19 PM | #1 |
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How do you train yourself to not close the non-dominant eye when aiming while shooting?
I am trying to keep both eyes open while aiming and shooting, but I can't seem to focus well on the target using the sights.
Any tricks or suggestions or is it simply just a matter of practice? Is there even anything wrong with aiming with one eye? Thanks. |
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Second, I suggest not focusing on the target. Standard doctrine, the way I and those I shoot with have done it for years, and the way our group of instructors teach it, is to focus on the front sight. Quote:
And there's really no trick to it, although it can take practice. Assuming that you've correctly identified your dominant eye, just assume that you dominant eye is aligned with the sights. That said, some people have weak dominance or shifting dominance that can make things more difficult. And sometimes the help of a good instructor can be useful. I gather from some of your posts that you're new to shooting. Perhaps you'd find the following helpful. The basic principles I discuss below apply to both handguns and rifles.
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For decades we taught (all the major schools did) closing or squinting the non dominant eye. It DOES give a better sight picture. Thats why bullseye shooters cover it with a patch or tape the lens of their shooting glasses.
In defensive pistolcraft the trend has been to keep both eyes open to enhance situational awareness, but also because we understand human reaction to high threat situations better these days. Under a startle response the natural tendency is to open both eyes wide. Think about what happens if someone jumps out and scares you. This “eyelid lift” is hard wired into the hind brain and is natural. Learning to shoot defensively in a manner that contradicts what your natural body alarm reaction is, does not make sense. So, for strictly target shooting fun...close the non dominant eye. For serious social work, both eyes open is a better way to go |
February 22, 2018, 03:51 PM | #4 |
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Thanks guys. Both very helpful.
I have a couple of guys that have been working with me (including a retired LEO who taught) and answering questions, but this board is great for different perspectives. I am in South Florida, so everything I do is at the range and there are no outdoor ranges in my immediate vicinity. Anyhow, thanks for the discussion. It is very helpful. |
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February 22, 2018, 07:53 PM | #7 |
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This may not work for you but it worked for me. No how much i tried i had trouble shooting with both eyes open. A experienced shooter at the range suggested i rub chapstick on my left lense. I gradually used less and less. It took a couple of trips but i can now shoot with both eyes open.
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February 22, 2018, 08:18 PM | #8 |
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I keep telling myself eyes open, and I make it a part of my routine !!!
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February 23, 2018, 07:24 AM | #9 |
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Get an air pistol and practice it out. Then you also get to practice sight picture, trigger control, and follow through.
An airsoft pistol might also be an option if an air pistol is impractical for your circumstances. |
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February 23, 2018, 08:51 AM | #11 |
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This might help:
http://www.gabewhitetraining.com/articles/vision/ Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk |
February 23, 2018, 07:34 PM | #12 |
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The Marines taught me to shoot with only my dominant eye open so it was hard for me to learn how to shoot with both eyes open and focused on the target (not the sights). When you shoot like this, the front sights appear as if they were two. I've found that if I position the left mirror image of the sight on the target, I can it hit almost as well as if I was keeping my left eye closed. I'm right eye dominant. This is the only "trick" I know.
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February 28, 2018, 11:48 AM | #14 |
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I am not sure exactly why yet, but I have been shooting with both eyes and I am more accurate. It still seems a bit blurry at times, but it is improving. Practice is huge.
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February 28, 2018, 11:58 AM | #15 |
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I'm also a 1 eye guy.
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February 28, 2018, 03:25 PM | #16 |
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"...focus well on the target using the sights..." You don't. You should focus on the front sight whether you use one or both eyes. However, shooting with both open is done primarily by practice and concentration.
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Both eyes open might be superior, but if you can't do it, it doesn't mean much, and if you hit your target, does it really matter??
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First, focus on the front sight. Never look at or focus on the rear sight.
I use to close the other eye when I was young, but what I did to avoid doing that when shooting was I would keep the left eye shut, line up the sights, then open my left eye and hold the gun just like I was. I would switch focus from my right eye, where the sights were aligned, to my left, where I was looking at the gun in a sort of isometric view. Idk if others can do that, switch focus from the dominant to non dominant eye, but I can and maybe they can explain it better. I will still on occasion, if I'm having difficulty seeing the front sight or the target, or some other issue aiming, close the left eye to help myself out in getting the proper sight picture, but once I do that, I will open the left eye again.
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February 28, 2018, 08:55 PM | #20 |
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Close the non dominant eye and focus on front sight w dominant eye. Slowly and very slightly open tbe non dominant eye while maintaining the focus. Once you maintain focus with your non dominant eye slightly open, continue to slowly and very gradually open the non dominant eye.
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March 2, 2018, 10:26 PM | #21 |
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I tried to shoot with both eyes open. It was an eyeopener (sorry for the pun).
I was able to place my shots in decent groupings but stopped, for the moment, and went back to one eye aiming. Felt like my eyes were going cross eyed. I fully intend to keep trying using both eyes. My take on this is like using my weak hand to shoot vs. my strong hand. Good luck on this one.
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March 3, 2018, 05:45 AM | #22 |
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just shoot...your eyes will compensate
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March 4, 2018, 11:41 PM | #23 |
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Darn it! I guess I'm just not combat tactical enough. I don't even try to keep both eyes open. Oh, what will become of me
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Another thing I'd add to what's been said.
Lay off the caffeine it will affect your nerves. Additionally try exhaling and holding before taking your shot. You'd be surprised how much breathing can throw your shots off. Don't hold your breath for too long though or it will actually make things worse. |
March 5, 2018, 05:57 AM | #25 |
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I am x eyed dominant (left eyed, right handed)...I never knew I had a problem shooting with both eyes open until I was told so...
As was said-front sight focus...on some handguns I have to drift the rear sight to the right, but guys with normal dominance also adjust sights. Again, I would advise to just shoot the way it feels most natural and see how that works out. |
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