.45 super

tom4254 · June 25, 2005, 10:44 PM

Dear People, Does anyone out there have the charge spec's on reloading the .45 super? I know the round is loaded from a .451 detonics case. Tom

WESHOOT2 · June 26, 2005, 06:41 AM

If you visit the 1911 Forum you'll find a 45 Super data-thread.

45 Super = Alliant Power Pistol.

Desert Dog · June 26, 2005, 09:47 AM

Buy your .45 Super brass from Starline. Don't bother trying to find and cut down 451 Detonics.

Weshoot2 and I disagree on powder. AA#7 is the most efficient powder for .45 Super IMHO, especially for 230 grain bullets.

Published data is still available on the web. My handloads are slightly less than full-bore Super, as you may have a hard time finding .451/.452 slugs that will hold together above 1200 FPS. Of the commercially available, Sierra Power Jackets and Hornady XTP's hold up the best.

Mike

mbartel · June 26, 2005, 09:56 AM

try this link...
http://www.realguns.com/loads/45Super.htm

I like Powerpistol powder and the Barnes 185gr solid copper bullet. Powerpistol has the best pressure/velocity ratio in this case size and the Barnes 185gr. will hold up at any handgun velocity and give DEEP penetration and .90 caliber expansion at super velocities.

WESHOOT2 · June 26, 2005, 10:15 AM

I don't load for 45 Super.
My "preference" for Power Pistol in the 45 Super comes only because certain manufacturers have admitted to using Power Pistol for their ammo.

AA7 can be a good powder.
(Oddly, I have some but never use it.)

Desert Dog · June 26, 2005, 09:07 PM

I know what you mean. I have 1/2 of a pound of Power Pistol that will probably get loaded in .40 S&W.... Someday.

WESHOOT2 · June 28, 2005, 10:31 AM

Might try some Power Pistol under medium-to-heavy lead in 45 Colt; can be nice at 1000-1100fps.

Desert Dog · June 28, 2005, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Might try some Power Pistol under medium-to-heavy lead in 45 Colt; can be nice at 1000-1100fps.

I use three powders for .45 Colt:

Unique
WC820
Lil Gun

PP will do nothing more for me than these three can do...

To keep this thread on track, I have done some experiments with AA#9 and .45 Super... Unfortunately, you run out of case capacity before you exceed what AA#7 can do... Very low SD with #9.

Mike

June 25, 2005, 10:44 PM	#1
tom4254 Junior Member Join Date: January 31, 2005 Posts: 13	.45 super Dear People, Does anyone out there have the charge spec's on reloading the .45 super? I know the round is loaded from a .451 detonics case. Tom

June 26, 2005, 06:41 AM	#2
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	data If you visit the 1911 Forum you'll find a 45 Super data-thread. 45 Super = Alliant Power Pistol. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

June 26, 2005, 09:47 AM	#3
Desert Dog Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 1999 Location: Deep East Texas Posts: 474	Buy your .45 Super brass from Starline. Don't bother trying to find and cut down 451 Detonics. Weshoot2 and I disagree on powder. AA#7 is the most efficient powder for .45 Super IMHO, especially for 230 grain bullets. Published data is still available on the web. My handloads are slightly less than full-bore Super, as you may have a hard time finding .451/.452 slugs that will hold together above 1200 FPS. Of the commercially available, Sierra Power Jackets and Hornady XTP's hold up the best. Mike __________________ Yes, in fact I do have a 454... in more ways than one. "No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority" - Thomas Jefferson

June 26, 2005, 10:15 AM	#5
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	neither I don't load for 45 Super. My "preference" for Power Pistol in the 45 Super comes only because certain manufacturers have admitted to using Power Pistol for their ammo. AA7 can be a good powder. (Oddly, I have some but never use it.) __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

June 26, 2005, 09:07 PM	#6
Desert Dog Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 1999 Location: Deep East Texas Posts: 474	I know what you mean. I have 1/2 of a pound of Power Pistol that will probably get loaded in .40 S&W.... Someday. __________________ Yes, in fact I do have a 454... in more ways than one. "No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority" - Thomas Jefferson

June 26, 2005, 09:56 AM	#4
mbartel Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Posts: 77	try this link... http://www.realguns.com/loads/45Super.htm I like Powerpistol powder and the Barnes 185gr solid copper bullet. Powerpistol has the best pressure/velocity ratio in this case size and the Barnes 185gr. will hold up at any handgun velocity and give DEEP penetration and .90 caliber expansion at super velocities.

June 28, 2005, 10:31 AM	#7
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	P P Might try some Power Pistol under medium-to-heavy lead in 45 Colt; can be nice at 1000-1100fps. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"