New REM 870MM XCS

NINE · October 14, 2006, 02:36 AM

Very, very interesting!

REM's TriNyte coating!

http://www.remington.com/pdfs/Spring2007_fi.pdf (PAGE 8)

Kiel_Everett · October 14, 2006, 10:47 AM

im liking the marine magnum...i trying to decide what shotgun to ask for for my 21st birthday...i may just get that finish!

does it say how much more that finish is? my computer no like Adobe.

CAAT1 · October 16, 2006, 12:03 AM

I like that XCS!

Thanks for sharing it.

RevolverLover · October 16, 2006, 11:07 AM

Anyone have any info on the new TriNyte coating?

9mmMike · October 16, 2006, 11:26 AM

A black MM? I may have to buy my very first "brand new" 870, ever. Cool.

johnbt · October 16, 2006, 11:39 AM

Only this:

"Remington’s TriNyte System

The demand for protective coatings on hunting guns has been growing for years. It’s only natural that a major firearm manufacturer would spot the trend and offer its own version. Remington has done that with its new Model 700 Xtreme Conditions Rifle coated with Remington’s TriNyte Corrosion Control System.

Remington starts with a stainless steel barreled action and treats it with a Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) coating of zirconium nitride. PVD is done in a vacuum where the coating material is converted from a solid to a vapor and back to a solid, gradually building a film on the metal surface. The result, Remington says, is an extremely hard micro-thin coating that resists abrasion and corrosion. The coating is there for good, too. It cannot be stripped or ground off like chrome or polymer coatings."

- from www.gunhuntermag.com/features/051004Metal.htm

fett tracking · October 16, 2006, 01:24 PM

Will they phase out the nickle plated mm's now?

Kiel_Everett · October 16, 2006, 10:10 PM

I looked into it and its about $230 more than the nickel coated Marine Magnum.

Instead of wasting more bandwidth on a post, I will ask here:

Can you still coat the Marine Magnum with some sort of black coating, even with that nickel coating? I am looking into purchasing the Marine Magnum, but am with fett about the nickel coating...not digging it..a little help?

fett tracking · October 19, 2006, 02:31 PM

WOW theres no way I would dump 500 dollars on an express. Thats ****ing rediculous!

I would throw 400 on an 870P and the rest on teflon and oil for it.

Dfariswheel · October 19, 2006, 08:17 PM

"Can you still coat the Marine Magnum with some sort of black coating"?

While you can coat the electroless nickel coating with any of the spray on or spray and bake guns coatings, you'll have problems with the coating not adhering to the "slippery" nickel too well.

Things just don't stick to plated surfaces very well.

"Remington starts with a stainless steel barreled action"

I wonder if that includes the 870 or it's just the bolt rifle?

mjolnir · October 22, 2006, 09:21 AM

I wish, Dfariswheel! I've been dreaming of an all-stainless steel pump for a long time...

From the catalog...

Quote:

Featuring the extreme corrosion and abrasion resistance of our proprietary TriNyte™Black Corrosion Control System,® the new 12-gauge Model 870™ XCS (Xtreme Conditions Shotgun) Marine Magnum will serve and protect in the most extreme conditions on earth. For even more rugged endurance, all metal parts are coated with electroless nickel, and the trigger group is specially equipped to resist fouling and oxidation.
The law-enforcement-style SpeedFeed® I stock and R3® recoil pad with LimbSaver® technology work in conjunction to tame the recoil of even the most potent 2 3/4" or 3" magnum rounds. The stock is equipped with a shell holder to keep up to four extra rounds at your fingertips. Match these features with a 7-round capacity and 18" cylinder bore barrel, and you have the ultimate special-purpose firearm. Anywhere, anytime – count on it.

Now, you could infer from the poor phrasing that the gun is first PVD coated, THEN e-less coated, which is silly since the darn thing is black! So they must be applying the TriNyte Black ONTO the e-less nickel (which has nothing to do with your statement regarding spray/bake...you're quite correct there).

Also,

Quote:

TriNyte™ Corrosion Control System. Consisting of electroless nickel and proprietary PVD coating, this armor-tough, multi-layer coating is the world’s most effective barrier against rust and abrasion for
firearms, yet is only a fraction of a human hair in thickness. The only thing you’ll notice is the near invincibility.

Looks like I'll be dreaming for a while longer...still, I think I'm in for one!

Bill T · October 30, 2006, 05:23 PM

This is my 1972 vintage Remington 700 BDL in .300 Win. Mag. that came from the factory with a blued, not "blackened" Stainless Steel barrel. These guns were quite costly for Remington to produce, and not many were made. They actually plated the Stainless with carbon steel, then blued the barrel. The barrel is stamped ".300 WIN MAG STAINLESS STEEL". Remington does have experience in offering these kind of unique finishes. Back in the late 80's S&W offered a limited run of "Blackened" Stainless Steel 686 Revolvers. I wish I had bought one. Not many were produced. Bill T.

October 14, 2006, 02:36 AM	#1
NINE Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 431	New REM 870MM XCS Very, very interesting! REM's TriNyte coating! http://www.remington.com/pdfs/Spring2007_fi.pdf (PAGE 8)

October 16, 2006, 11:26 AM	#5
9mmMike Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2000 Location: SE PA Posts: 1,049	A black MM? I may have to buy my very first "brand new" 870, ever. Cool. __________________ "Freedom is not free" Visit TheRallyPoint.org TheRallyPoint at LRGC- Saturday August 26th IF YOU LIVE IN PA AND DID NOT VOTE, YOU DESERVE TO LOSE YOUR GUNS!

October 16, 2006, 01:24 PM	#7
fett tracking Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Location: bay area (hell) Posts: 41	Will they phase out the nickle plated mm's now? __________________ "Oh, 'bout the hottest, meanest **** I can find" "Processed information makes the world go 'round" "Damn kids..."

October 19, 2006, 02:31 PM	#9
fett tracking Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Location: bay area (hell) Posts: 41	WOW theres no way I would dump 500 dollars on an express. Thats **ing rediculous! I would throw 400 on an 870P and the rest on teflon and oil for it. __________________ "Oh, 'bout the hottest, meanest ** I can find" "Processed information makes the world go 'round" "Damn kids..."

October 14, 2006, 10:47 AM	#2
Kiel_Everett Member Join Date: May 14, 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 51	im liking the marine magnum...i trying to decide what shotgun to ask for for my 21st birthday...i may just get that finish! does it say how much more that finish is? my computer no like Adobe.

October 16, 2006, 12:03 AM	#3
CAAT1 Member Join Date: April 14, 2006 Posts: 18	I like that XCS! Thanks for sharing it.

October 16, 2006, 11:07 AM	#4
RevolverLover Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2004 Posts: 1,682	Anyone have any info on the new TriNyte coating?

October 16, 2006, 11:39 AM	#6
johnbt Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Richmond, Virginia USA Posts: 6,004	Only this: "Remington’s TriNyte System The demand for protective coatings on hunting guns has been growing for years. It’s only natural that a major firearm manufacturer would spot the trend and offer its own version. Remington has done that with its new Model 700 Xtreme Conditions Rifle coated with Remington’s TriNyte Corrosion Control System. Remington starts with a stainless steel barreled action and treats it with a Physical Vapor Deposition (PVD) coating of zirconium nitride. PVD is done in a vacuum where the coating material is converted from a solid to a vapor and back to a solid, gradually building a film on the metal surface. The result, Remington says, is an extremely hard micro-thin coating that resists abrasion and corrosion. The coating is there for good, too. It cannot be stripped or ground off like chrome or polymer coatings." - from www.gunhuntermag.com/features/051004Metal.htm

October 16, 2006, 10:10 PM	#8
Kiel_Everett Member Join Date: May 14, 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 51	I looked into it and its about $230 more than the nickel coated Marine Magnum. Instead of wasting more bandwidth on a post, I will ask here: Can you still coat the Marine Magnum with some sort of black coating, even with that nickel coating? I am looking into purchasing the Marine Magnum, but am with fett about the nickel coating...not digging it..a little help?

October 19, 2006, 08:17 PM	#10
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 7,478	"Can you still coat the Marine Magnum with some sort of black coating"? While you can coat the electroless nickel coating with any of the spray on or spray and bake guns coatings, you'll have problems with the coating not adhering to the "slippery" nickel too well. Things just don't stick to plated surfaces very well. "Remington starts with a stainless steel barreled action" I wonder if that includes the 870 or it's just the bolt rifle?

October 30, 2006, 05:23 PM	#12
Bill T Junior member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 298	This is my 1972 vintage Remington 700 BDL in .300 Win. Mag. that came from the factory with a blued, not "blackened" Stainless Steel barrel. These guns were quite costly for Remington to produce, and not many were made. They actually plated the Stainless with carbon steel, then blued the barrel. The barrel is stamped ".300 WIN MAG STAINLESS STEEL". Remington does have experience in offering these kind of unique finishes. Back in the late 80's S&W offered a limited run of "Blackened" Stainless Steel 686 Revolvers. I wish I had bought one. Not many were produced. Bill T.