|
Forum Rules | Firearms Safety | Firearms Photos | Links | Library | Lost Password | Email Changes |
Register | FAQ | Calendar | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
View Poll Results: Which of these 3, especially considering reliability, for carry? | |||
Kahr PM9 (9mm) | 67 | 51.54% | |
Springfield XD Subcompact (9mm or .40) | 23 | 17.69% | |
Colt New Agent (.45) | 40 | 30.77% | |
Voters: 130. You may not vote on this poll |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
September 8, 2011, 09:47 AM | #26 |
Junior member
Join Date: April 21, 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 4,555
|
Since when is a Glock thin?
Does Glock make a Glock that I don't know about? Are we saying a Glock is thin compared to a Deseart Eagle .50 AE ??? A Glock is thin compared to Roseann Barr ? How is a Glock thin? |
September 8, 2011, 10:23 AM | #27 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 23, 2008
Posts: 713
|
of the 3 listed, the PM9 is best for year round carry. very easy to conceal and very reliable after it's broken in. i carried in a smart carry w/o issue.
the colt new agent is not that small of a gun. it's the same frame as the defender .45 i can't carry the defender unless it's under a coat. just too big for me to conceal well. a better choice would be the agent/defender 9mm better yet is the EMP9. i'm a skinny runt and the emp is easy to carry concealed. they also have it in .40. just my 2c
__________________
http://takdriver.com/ |
September 8, 2011, 10:31 AM | #28 |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 17, 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 185
|
__________________
GreySmoke Tactical Firearms and FFL Transfers, Greysmoketacticalfirearms.com |
September 8, 2011, 10:33 AM | #29 | ||
Senior Member
Join Date: May 11, 2009
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 4,580
|
Quote:
You forgot to add it to your poll. I voted Colt instead - put I'd steer you back to the PPS is possible.
__________________
Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 | Glock 26.4 | HK USP 9 | HK P2000 | HK VP9 SK | HK P30 | CZ Shadow 2 | CZ P-10 C | CZ P-07 | CZP-01 | S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 | SGL 21 | SAM7K | Draco | PSA PDW SBR | ASA Side-Charger SBR | CZ Scorpion K SBR | Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR | Angstadt Jack9 SBR | Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP | Mossberg Shockwave |
||
September 8, 2011, 11:03 AM | #30 |
Senior Member
Join Date: June 5, 2011
Posts: 801
|
Another vote for the PPS
|
September 8, 2011, 11:08 AM | #31 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 20, 2008
Location: Dubuque, Iowa
Posts: 456
|
The Kahr also has the new CM9 which I haven't held yet. Might be a good fit for you.
__________________
RetiredMajor, NRA Certified Instructor Every day's a holiday and every meal's a feast! Last edited by RetiredMajor; September 8, 2011 at 11:16 AM. |
September 8, 2011, 11:14 AM | #32 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 20, 2008
Location: Dubuque, Iowa
Posts: 456
|
Quote:
__________________
RetiredMajor, NRA Certified Instructor Every day's a holiday and every meal's a feast! |
|
September 8, 2011, 03:36 PM | #33 |
Junior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2011
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 11
|
I'm gonna throw another in the picture. Sig 232. Very nice pistol. Very reliable. Very concealable. Forget about Khar, forget about Ruger, forget about Glock, go with tried and true a real concealable pistol Sig Sauer P232.
JMHO Glad to be here!
__________________
Everything is peachy! |
September 8, 2011, 03:48 PM | #34 |
Junior member
Join Date: October 4, 2007
Location: All the way to NEBRASKA
Posts: 8,722
|
Which trigger type do you shoot best?
DAO? (I think the Kahr is, not sure.) DA/SA? (Like a Berretta 92 or 96) Striker fired? (XD, I think ....) SA? (The New Agent is the 1911 with the funky sight channel instead of traditional sights, right?) Last edited by jimbob86; September 8, 2011 at 04:35 PM. |
September 8, 2011, 04:33 PM | #35 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 21, 2009
Posts: 325
|
I am a single action guy all the way IF I have a choice... my winter carry gun is an STI 1911 (also used in USPSA) and a Hi Power shares both duties along with IDPA.
If I knew I was going to be in a pistol fight, I'd bring one of those two. That being said, many of these small pistols are designed for up close and personal work where a long double action pull may be more desirable due to not having a manual safety. I also think its important to be versatile... My little PF9 took some time to get used to, but now i'm happy with controlled pairs at 7 yards and thats what I bought it for. The only trigger system that I'll never own is a DA/SA - It seems silly to me, but a lot of folks like them. |
September 8, 2011, 04:48 PM | #36 |
Junior member
Join Date: October 4, 2007
Location: All the way to NEBRASKA
Posts: 8,722
|
I think it a bad idea to mix trigger/safety system/manual of arms/holsters ...... at crunchtime, you may do like that guy from Texas...... he had been shooting with two different holsters and guns..... got confused and shot himself in the leg ..... on youtube.....
Shoot one system. It would be a bad thing to practice a lot with a PF9 and then be Carrying a 1911 or Hi-Power and be yanking on the trigger to no avail...... having your thumb's muscle memory forgotten it needed to swipe the safety off on the draw........ meanwhile, Karl Krackhead is beatin' on your coconut with whatever is handy...... I Carry a 1911 ...... and do not shoot DA's ........ I even shoot my DA revolvers SA, most of the time, and I don't Carry them. |
September 8, 2011, 05:21 PM | #37 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 10, 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 685
|
Quote:
As far as the poll, I would say to look at the PM9/MK9 or P9/K9. I originally wanted to buy a PM9, but they were a little too small for my liking so I went with a K9. To me the extra weight is a blessing, and I prefer the full grip while still retaining the slim profile. Also, I wouldn't say that the XD is slim given all the choices you have with a single stack design. |
|
September 8, 2011, 05:29 PM | #38 |
Member
Join Date: August 28, 2011
Location: Fort Wayne Indiana
Posts: 37
|
I have a Glock model 36 (45 cal.). It is small in size which makes it a good choice for a carry weapon. It is only a single row mag which reduces the width of the grip. This results in the gun having a good feel in your hand. The accuracy is good. The down side is if you shoot rounds larger than 185 grain it tends to be a pinky pincher. All and all I am happy with the model 36 and would recommend to others.
Hope this helps. |
September 8, 2011, 05:51 PM | #39 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 10, 2008
Location: Alaska
Posts: 7,014
|
Hijack Notice: They are for us old farts who grew up mostly with revolvers and 1911s and just can't stand something that looks like it will go boom by looking at it!
Quote:
|
|
September 8, 2011, 07:00 PM | #40 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 13, 2011
Location: Carolina
Posts: 3,415
|
My Kahr CM9 has been 100% and is plenty accurate for SD purposes. Second choice would be the 45. I had 2 XDs (including a 9mm compact) and both weren't as reliable as my Glocks, FNs, S&Ws, or my Kahr. I know others love them, but I wasn't impressed.
|
September 8, 2011, 07:09 PM | #41 |
Junior member
Join Date: June 21, 2009
Location: NE Ohio
Posts: 1,176
|
Don't know where this "fits" between all the others, but the S&W 3913/3914 series (especially the ones with the single sided safety, like the Ladysmith style) are especially flat, and have an almost perfect reputation for reliability, quality, and accuracy. They have very flat, Delrin grips, that add little to the girth of the gun. Very easy to conceal, and even easier to shoot. I've even concealed one on the ankle.
|
September 8, 2011, 07:21 PM | #42 | |
Junior member
Join Date: September 16, 2010
Posts: 1,141
|
Quote:
|
|
September 8, 2011, 08:17 PM | #43 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: June 19, 2010
Posts: 2,145
|
Quote:
|
|
September 8, 2011, 09:00 PM | #44 |
Senior Member
Join Date: December 21, 2010
Location: Central FL
Posts: 1,360
|
My vote is for the XD. tough as nails and I've never heard anyone having any type of issues with this gun at all. I'm sure there are a rare few, but its very remote. I've owned one, and if reliability is your main concern vs slimness then XD is the way to go.
|
September 8, 2011, 09:16 PM | #45 | ||
Senior Member
Join Date: July 9, 2004
Posts: 5,172
|
Lots of "opinions"..
and we all know what those are like...
Quote:
I have owned a lot of handguns of varying calibers. The only sub-.45acp pistols I currently own are the PM9 and and LCP. These days, I carry a .45 every day, so the PM9 and LCP spend most of their time in the safe...but I'm not selling either one. Quote:
There is no double-stack anything that qualifies as "slim". Period. End of story. If you want a slim, concealable pistol of any caliber, a single stack is the only option. Last edited by orionengnr; September 8, 2011 at 09:28 PM. |
||
September 9, 2011, 12:39 AM | #46 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 17, 2004
Location: Out back Ky
Posts: 4,044
|
I would choose Colt of the 3 listed But would be Defender I have Agent and Defender I like shooting the Defender better. Both are 100% reliable with any ammo I have tried . I carry with the Corbon DPX .
__________________
Certified Armed Infidel Colt Defender ,Colt Mustang ,Dan Wesson CBOB, PPK/S, American Classic 1911,Bersa Thunder 380 http://bersachat.comHome of Bersa http://www.metroarms1911forum.com |
September 9, 2011, 01:08 AM | #47 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 2, 2005
Posts: 1,196
|
If I was considering a Kahr, I'd skip the poly version and get the stainless. I had a K-9 and it was almost the perfect CCW. Never a problem with the gun. Made use of their customer service and found it better than most.
Had a Glock 36 at one point. I wouldn't call it slim by any means and like the Kahr, it fired everything with out issue. |
September 9, 2011, 02:49 AM | #48 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 15, 2008
Location: the object towards which the action of the sea is directed
Posts: 2,123
|
Quote:
Wilson Combat KZ-45. Double stacked .45auto 10 round mag in a 1911. I measured mine and it's slightly thinner than all of my other 1911s (single stack mags in Government, Commander, and Officer's) across the grips. Ruger SR9c. Double stacked 9mm 10 round and 17 round mags, also thin across the grips; widest point on the grips is just over an inch. So, if really depends on what we define "slim" as. Colt 1911 slim? or Ruger LCP slim? (And yes, I do CC both of these pistols; the WC being Government sized and the SR9c being roughly equivalent to a Colt Officer's in size.)
__________________
The lowest paid college major/degree in this country after graduation... Elementary Education. Now, go figure... |
|
September 9, 2011, 04:46 AM | #49 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 21, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 7,839
|
again, I'm not looking to argue. I'm just stating a first hand account. I'll be happy to provide documentation for a 2 year old phone converstaion.
all text involved in said phone call will be located between the brackets. [] that about sums up the documentation I have on that phone call. I dont like being called a liar but I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions
__________________
ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin |
September 9, 2011, 05:03 AM | #50 |
Member
Join Date: May 12, 2010
Location: GA
Posts: 78
|
PM9
__________________
TheJ |
Tags |
carry , pistol , slim , small |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|