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Old August 3, 2009, 10:25 PM   #1
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Sotomayor not a done deal?

I was surprised to see the extent of dissatisfaction with the Sotomayor nomination. If Senators care about their continued employment, they may want to consider these poll results:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/Second...web2706544.htm
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. . .A recent poll conducted by Zogby International and The O'Leary Report may give Senators from both parties some pause. (The poll was conducted July 21-24, surveyed 4,470 voters, and has a margin-of-error of plus-or-minus 1.5 percentage points.).

"Would you support or oppose a U.S. Senator who voted to confirm a Justice to the U.S. Supreme Court who does not believe in the right to keep and bear arms and the right to self-defense?"

Fifty-two percent of American voters would oppose the re-election of any Senator who votes to confirm a Supreme Court nominee who does not believe in the right to keep and bear arms. Only 26 percent of voters would support such a Senator.

Among Independent voters, 57 percent would oppose such a Senator, and only 17 percent would support. Forty-nine percent of young voters (age 18-29) would oppose a Senator who votes to confirm a nominee who does not believe Second Amendment rights apply to all Americans, and just 31 percent would support such a Senator. A plurality of Hispanic voters (42 percent) would oppose such a Senator, and only 28 percent would support. A large percentage of Hispanics (30 percent) are not sure. A majority of union members (54 percent) would also oppose, and 29 percent would support.
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Old August 3, 2009, 10:47 PM   #2
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Boy, they pulled that link down in a hurry! Here's the whole thing (I hadn't closed the window yet)

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Zogby/O'Leary Poll Reveals Majority of Voters Will Oppose Senators Who Vote to Confirm an Anti-Second Amendment Supreme Court Nominee

Strong Majority of Independents, Democrats and Obama Voters Support the Right to Carry a Firearm

Washington, D.C. (Vocus/PRWEB ) August 3, 2009 -- Next week the full U.S. Senate will vote on whether or not to confirm President Barack Obama's Supreme Court nominee, Sonia Sotomayor. Many analysts are predicting a mostly party-line vote, however, a recent poll conducted by Zogby International and The O'Leary Report may give Senators from both parties some pause. (The poll was conducted July 21-24, surveyed 4,470 voters, and has a margin-of-error of plus-or-minus 1.5 percentage points.).


Currently, 39 states have laws that allow residents to carry firearms to protect themselves, only if they pass a background check and pay a fee to cover administrative costs. Most of those states also require applicants to have firearms safety training. Do you support or oppose this law? Judge Sonia Sotomayor
Judge Sotomayor does not believe the Second Amendment right to "keep and bear arms" and the right to self-defense are fundamental rights of all Americans. Specifically, Judge Sotomayor believes the Second Amendment only applies to the federal government and does not apply to the States, as indicated by her recent testimony and past rulings.

Zogby/O'Leary asked voters:

"Would you support or oppose a U.S. Senator who voted to confirm a Justice to the U.S. Supreme Court who does not believe in the right to keep and bear arms and the right to self-defense?"

Fifty-two percent of American voters would oppose the re-election of any Senator who votes to confirm a Supreme Court nominee who does not believe in the right to keep and bear arms. Only 26 percent of voters would support such a Senator.

Among Independent voters, 57 percent would oppose such a Senator, and only 17 percent would support. Forty-nine percent of young voters (age 18-29) would oppose a Senator who votes to confirm a nominee who does not believe Second Amendment rights apply to all Americans, and just 31 percent would support such a Senator. A plurality of Hispanic voters (42 percent) would oppose such a Senator, and only 28 percent would support. A large percentage of Hispanics (30 percent) are not sure. A majority of union members (54 percent) would also oppose, and 29 percent would support.

The Right to Carry a Firearm

An amendment that would have permitted law-abiding gun owners with concealed-carry permits to carry their firearms across state lines recently fell short in the Senate. Although the amendment received a majority of votes (58-39), a filibuster-proof 60 votes were required for passage.

Zogby/O'Leary asked voters:

"Currently, 39 states have laws that allow residents to carry firearms to protect themselves, only if they pass a background check and pay a fee to cover administrative costs. Most of those states also require applicants to have firearms safety training. Do you support or oppose this law?"

An overwhelming majority of Americans (83 percent) support concealed-carry laws, while only 11 percent oppose them. A majority of Independent voters (86 percent), Democrats (80 percent), young voters age 18-29 (83 percent), Hispanic voters (80 percent), and those who voted for President Obama (80 percent) support the right to carry a firearm.

Brad O'Leary is publisher of "The O'Leary Report," a bestselling author, and is a former NBC Westwood One talk show host. His latest bestseller, "Shut Up, America! The End of Free Speech," (www.EndofFreeSpeech.com) is available now in bookstores. To see more poll results, go to www.olearyreport.com. To interview Brad, contact Shawna Shriner at (703) 272-1500 or shawnashriner(at)pm-direct(dot)com.
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Old August 4, 2009, 06:48 AM   #3
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Sotomayor is a done deal. The only question is by how many votes. Apparently, the NRA was ambivalent about whether it would count the vote in its grading process and then at the last minute (after several traditionally good NRA Senators indicated they would support Sotomayor) decided it would count the vote.

That has apparently created a lot of unease among Senators who are concerned about their NRA grade; but the ones I've read comments from seem to be confident they can make a pro-Sotomayor vote anyway since the rest of their record is solid.
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Old August 4, 2009, 10:25 AM   #4
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One of the problems is that much of the opposition to Sotomayor has centered around her "wise Latina" comment and not her opposition to the RKBA nor her record of decisions having been overturned by SCOTUS. The comment has pretty well been explained and I'm not sure it was as big a deal as it was made out to be, but the end result was for any opposition to be colored by that comment, even if that opposition is completely unrelated. Congrats, now opposition to Sotomayor is a racial thing- nice move, talking head pundits; Senators can't explain opposition in sound bites now.

The Republicans have a history of supporting all nominees short of extremely serious problems; they've been far more fair than the Democrats have been, and the result is that left wing judges get a freer ride than the right wing judges. I just don't see a few Democrats bucking the party line nor every Republican making a stand on this vote- I think she's in, but given that she's replacing Souter, it isn't like it's the end of the world.
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Old August 4, 2009, 01:00 PM   #5
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I think she's in, but given that she's replacing Souter, it isn't like it's the end of the world.
Well stated Techno. I too agree she's in but certainly don't think her past merits the position.
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Old August 6, 2009, 09:06 PM   #6
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Done deal

Senate voted today, 60+ for , 30+ against. She's in. Its a done deal, and therefore, so is this thread. Sorry.

Oh, and 9 Republicans voted for her. Shumer thanked them publically.
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