remington wingmaster 20ga

markstop50 · May 4, 2013, 01:20 PM

Where or what search can I use to find out about a wingmaster 20ga magnum, the receiver says magnum, but it don't say LW or light weight. I would be buying on internet, I just want to make sure it is a light weight model. The original owner says he got it in the late 90's I have the serial # thanks for all your help

Pahoo · May 4, 2013, 02:02 PM

You need to look for a designation of LT-20 or LW-20. In addition, there are physical differences as well. I had an LT-20 in both the upland and regular configuration. I have held an LW-20 that had a mahogany stock. ...

Sounds to me like you are looking at the regualr 870 Magnum Wingmaster and that's not a bad thing. ....

Be Safe !!!

markstop50 · May 4, 2013, 02:20 PM

More info it has a 26" rem choke bbl Glossy Finish on stk & forend, but nowhere is a designation of LT or LW, asking price is $375.00 good price I think, owner says it has a RA on btm of pistol grip. Does anyone know if a Wingmaster Magnum was built on a Std frame in 20ga, or just maybe a LW is std. anymore

Virginian · May 4, 2013, 07:29 PM

There are no LT Wingmasters. That is an 1100 designation only. What's the serial number? 'X' or 'N' (Magnum) suffix is the older standard weight. 'K' (standard) or 'U' (Magnum) are the lightweights.
Remington has changed the rollmarking n their guns more than once. If it's a gloss blued finish, it's a Wingmaster. Matte is Express, whether it says it or not anymore.

Pahoo · May 4, 2013, 08:13 PM

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There are no LT Wingmasters.

As a "Progressive" would say, I think I has mis-spoke and have to "recalibrate" my words. Got sucked in when I saw the reference to the LW designation that is on the 1100. I don't know if they ever made a light Wingmaster. Sorry to add to the confusion ...

Be Safe !!!

Virginian · May 5, 2013, 05:30 AM

The 870 lightweights on the 28/410 sized receiver were designated LW20 from the beginning in 1972. Every 870 was a Wingmaster before the first Expresses in 1987, although Remington marketed the Sportsman versions of the 1100 and 870 in the 80s that carried hardwood stocks and still had polished blued metal. They did not say 1100 or 870 on them. All current 870s and 1100s are on that same 28 sized receiver, although they have dropped the LW and LT designations.
The LW 20 Model 1100 was introduced in 1970, on the same sized receiver. Due to some issues it was revised and changed to the LT 20 design in 1977.
Remington also produced some guns in both series in the 1960s that they built on the 12 gauge sized receivers, that they called lightweights, because they equipped them with mahogany stocks and fore ends. There was no rollmarking on the metal to identify them that I have ever seen.
Remington rollmarking is not reliable for positive identification I don't think. I have seen an 1100 with nothing but a serial number on it anywhere, and apparently the guy (or gal) who date codes the barrels has no one to fill in when they aren't there.
Remington Serial # suffixes:
V 12 GA. (2 3/4”)
M 12 GA. MAGNUM (3”)
A 12 GA. “SUPER” MAGNUM (3 ½”)
W 16 GA. ( 2 ¾” )
X 20 GA. “HEAVY FRAME” (DISCONTINUED)
N 20 GA. “HEAVY FRAME MAGNUM” (DISCONTINUED)
K 20 GA. “LIGHT WEIGHT” (“LW”) (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”)
U 20 GA. LW MAGNUM (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”)
J 28 GA.
H .410 BORE (2 ½” OR 3”)

markstop50 · May 5, 2013, 07:22 PM

Thanks so much That answered all my questions very helpful Mark

May 4, 2013, 01:20 PM	#1
markstop50 Junior Member Join Date: January 16, 2012 Posts: 14	remington wingmaster 20ga Where or what search can I use to find out about a wingmaster 20ga magnum, the receiver says magnum, but it don't say LW or light weight. I would be buying on internet, I just want to make sure it is a light weight model. The original owner says he got it in the late 90's I have the serial # thanks for all your help

May 4, 2013, 02:02 PM	#2
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	LW-20 or LT-20 Stampings You need to look for a designation of LT-20 or LW-20. In addition, there are physical differences as well. I had an LT-20 in both the upland and regular configuration. I have held an LW-20 that had a mahogany stock. ... Sounds to me like you are looking at the regualr 870 Magnum Wingmaster and that's not a bad thing. .... Be Safe !!! __________________ 'Fundamental truths' are easy to recognize because they are verified daily through simple observation and thus, require no testing.

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markstop50 Junior Member Join Date: January 16, 2012 Posts: 14	20ga mag More info it has a 26" rem choke bbl Glossy Finish on stk & forend, but nowhere is a designation of LT or LW, asking price is $375.00 good price I think, owner says it has a RA on btm of pistol grip. Does anyone know if a Wingmaster Magnum was built on a Std frame in 20ga, or just maybe a LW is std. anymore Last edited by markstop50; May 4, 2013 at 03:14 PM.

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May 4, 2013, 07:29 PM	#4
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	There are no LT Wingmasters. That is an 1100 designation only. What's the serial number? 'X' or 'N' (Magnum) suffix is the older standard weight. 'K' (standard) or 'U' (Magnum) are the lightweights. Remington has changed the rollmarking n their guns more than once. If it's a gloss blued finish, it's a Wingmaster. Matte is Express, whether it says it or not anymore.

May 5, 2013, 05:30 AM	#6
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	The 870 lightweights on the 28/410 sized receiver were designated LW20 from the beginning in 1972. Every 870 was a Wingmaster before the first Expresses in 1987, although Remington marketed the Sportsman versions of the 1100 and 870 in the 80s that carried hardwood stocks and still had polished blued metal. They did not say 1100 or 870 on them. All current 870s and 1100s are on that same 28 sized receiver, although they have dropped the LW and LT designations. The LW 20 Model 1100 was introduced in 1970, on the same sized receiver. Due to some issues it was revised and changed to the LT 20 design in 1977. Remington also produced some guns in both series in the 1960s that they built on the 12 gauge sized receivers, that they called lightweights, because they equipped them with mahogany stocks and fore ends. There was no rollmarking on the metal to identify them that I have ever seen. Remington rollmarking is not reliable for positive identification I don't think. I have seen an 1100 with nothing but a serial number on it anywhere, and apparently the guy (or gal) who date codes the barrels has no one to fill in when they aren't there. Remington Serial # suffixes: V 12 GA. (2 3/4”) M 12 GA. MAGNUM (3”) A 12 GA. “SUPER” MAGNUM (3 ½”) W 16 GA. ( 2 ¾” ) X 20 GA. “HEAVY FRAME” (DISCONTINUED) N 20 GA. “HEAVY FRAME MAGNUM” (DISCONTINUED) K 20 GA. “LIGHT WEIGHT” (“LW”) (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”) U 20 GA. LW MAGNUM (ALSO INCLUDES M/1100 “LT”) J 28 GA. H .410 BORE (2 ½” OR 3”)

May 5, 2013, 07:22 PM	#7
markstop50 Junior Member Join Date: January 16, 2012 Posts: 14	Thanks so much That answered all my questions very helpful Mark