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Old June 15, 2018, 12:17 AM   #26
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This whole thing could be put to rest in an honest court. Either way: pro-gun, anti-gun it could have been settled. But instead they choose to use it as a political tool; this and other hot button issues. The gun rights thing could be well settled by now.
Every intelligent adult knows what the second amendment really means - it doesn’t matter if everyone agrees to what the second amendment intended, everyone knows exactly what the second amendment means.
But instead, those who have the power to settle it leave it open to go either way... depending on who can get the most mileage out of it.
It’s like a game of dodgeball that no one wants to win but everyone wants to play.
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Old June 15, 2018, 01:10 AM   #27
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Every intelligent adult knows what the second amendment really means -
Pretty much what it plainly says. It is interesting to note that for well over a century people pretty much took it at face value.

They talk today about how little law there is on the 2nd amendment, compared to other rights. And it's implied, if not outright stated that because of that. the issue is not settled.

To me, this is ignoring the obvious. The reason there is so little case law on the matter is that until the century just past, it was considered a settled issue.

Study actual history, and not the fiction taught as history, and you'll find gun control to be something created for political gain, which had no national traction until the 20th century.

The Big Lie really does work, given enough time and repetition.
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Old June 15, 2018, 08:25 AM   #28
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those who have the power to settle it leave it open to go either way... depending on who can get the most mileage out of it.

It’s like a game of dodgeball that no one wants to win but everyone wants to play.
That effectively sums up the 2A debate in our nation right now. It's a political issue, for political points. We have won decent pro-2A victories over the past couple decades. AWB sunset, with everyone and their brother subsequently getting their AR15, along with very friendly CCW laws as of late, has done a fair amount for our cause.

The anti's have victories too, at the state level. But in the end you're right. No one wants a significant shift on the national scene. Both sides like to drum it up for campaign donations.
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