Help identifying Firearm

Billvert · November 30, 2009, 12:17 AM

My father in law recently passed away suddenly and among his possessions were a few firearms. After his passing a number of his "friends" have been inquiring about his firearms and if he would like to sell them. No one else in the family knows anything about firearms or wants to take possession of them.

My mother in law would like to know if this rifle is worth anything or should she just give it away to one of his friends. She does not feel comfortable with it in the house as she has grandchildren running around all the time. I could not find any marking on the rifle only a serial number ,I think.

What kind of rifle is this?, I have no clue, I do know he used to hunt Elk with it in the Blue mtns. of Washington State.

Thanks in advance.

Uncle Buck · November 30, 2009, 12:22 AM

You'll have to post a picture of the gun. A serial number alone won't be much help. Try looking all over the gun for any other markings, there should be some along the barrel of the rifle and possibly on the under side.
Is it a lever action, a bolt action, a pump, or a semi-automatic? A description of the gun, as accurate as possible will be needed to help you identify and possibly obtain the monetary value of the it.

Billvert · November 30, 2009, 12:27 AM

Sorry, I had a problem with the pictures the first time. I will try again.

Billvert · November 30, 2009, 12:32 AM

I posted the pictures in the Test section of the forum and they worked. I guess I will have to resize them to post here the are larger than 97 kb about 250 each. in the time being they are in the test section if you want to look there. sorry for all the inconvenience.

LHB1 · November 30, 2009, 12:45 AM

What markings are on the action and/or barrel? More information is needed. From pics in Test area, the gun appears to be a sporterized Springfield action with checkered stock and Redfield fixed power scope, possibly 4X power. Is it chambered for .30-06? If in sound condition mechanically, it would be a good, practical hunting rifle. I do not keep up with prices on such guns.

Uncle Buck · November 30, 2009, 12:56 AM

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=386879

This is the link to the photo's.

If you can not find any more markings on the rifle, try to find the ammunition used in it. If it is still in the box, let us know what it says.
If the ammunition is loose, look at the head of the case (The round end of the brass case) and tell us what markings are on it. From that we can determine the caliber.

Billvert · November 30, 2009, 01:04 AM

I do not have the rifle with me now, it is across town. I did write down all the info I could find on it I am looking for it now... ok all I wrote down was Leopold Detacho Mark II. I thought that was just the scope mount. I guess I will have to go by and get some more info of fthe rifle for proper identification. I thought I really looked it over well and didn't see any markings except a serial # on the rifle itself.

Billvert · November 30, 2009, 01:10 AM

My wife says it is a .30-06 and she calls it "military modified" I think she must mean it was a military weapon modified for hunting?

Sarge · November 30, 2009, 01:23 AM

That's a 1903 Springfield sporter.

Jim Watson · November 30, 2009, 08:50 AM

The wife is right. The illustrated rifle is a sporterized 1903 Springfield with the military stock and hardware removed. If the barrel hasn't been replaced it is caliber .30-06. It is as good a hunting rifle as most, but resale value of such things is fairly low unless the work was done by somebody famous. A few hundred bucks would be about it.

Slamfire · November 30, 2009, 09:32 AM

Probably sporterized in the 50's, as that decade seemed to have the most sporterized military rifles. I doubt it was after as the right side is drilled and tapped for a Lyman 48 rear. By the time you get into the 60's, scopes are the norm.

You ought to find the serial number and determine if it is single heat treat receiver, or a high number.

If it is a single heat treat, the value of the rifle is in the parts value range.

Billvert · November 30, 2009, 09:22 PM

Thanks for all the info everyone. I will get the serial number the next time I visit the MIL (probably this week) and post it. I will also check for ammo but the wife is pretty sure it is a .30-06.

November 30, 2009, 12:17 AM	#1
Billvert Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2009 Posts: 6	Help identifying Firearm My father in law recently passed away suddenly and among his possessions were a few firearms. After his passing a number of his "friends" have been inquiring about his firearms and if he would like to sell them. No one else in the family knows anything about firearms or wants to take possession of them. My mother in law would like to know if this rifle is worth anything or should she just give it away to one of his friends. She does not feel comfortable with it in the house as she has grandchildren running around all the time. I could not find any marking on the rifle only a serial number ,I think. What kind of rifle is this?, I have no clue, I do know he used to hunt Elk with it in the Blue mtns. of Washington State. Thanks in advance. Last edited by Billvert; November 30, 2009 at 12:24 AM. Reason: Problem with picture

November 30, 2009, 12:22 AM	#2
Uncle Buck Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2009 Location: West Central Missouri Posts: 2,592	You'll have to post a picture of the gun. A serial number alone won't be much help. Try looking all over the gun for any other markings, there should be some along the barrel of the rifle and possibly on the under side. Is it a lever action, a bolt action, a pump, or a semi-automatic? A description of the gun, as accurate as possible will be needed to help you identify and possibly obtain the monetary value of the it. __________________ Inside Every Bright Idea Is The 50% Probability Of A Disaster Waiting To Happen.

November 30, 2009, 12:27 AM	#3
Billvert Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2009 Posts: 6	Sorry here's the picture Sorry, I had a problem with the pictures the first time. I will try again.

November 30, 2009, 12:45 AM	#5
LHB1 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,545	What markings are on the action and/or barrel? More information is needed. From pics in Test area, the gun appears to be a sporterized Springfield action with checkered stock and Redfield fixed power scope, possibly 4X power. Is it chambered for .30-06? If in sound condition mechanically, it would be a good, practical hunting rifle. I do not keep up with prices on such guns. __________________ Good shooting and be safe. LB Last edited by LHB1; November 30, 2009 at 12:51 AM.

November 30, 2009, 12:56 AM	#6
Uncle Buck Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2009 Location: West Central Missouri Posts: 2,592	http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=386879 This is the link to the photo's. If you can not find any more markings on the rifle, try to find the ammunition used in it. If it is still in the box, let us know what it says. If the ammunition is loose, look at the head of the case (The round end of the brass case) and tell us what markings are on it. From that we can determine the caliber. __________________ Inside Every Bright Idea Is The 50% Probability Of A Disaster Waiting To Happen.

November 30, 2009, 12:32 AM	#4
Billvert Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2009 Posts: 6	I posted the pictures in the Test section of the forum and they worked. I guess I will have to resize them to post here the are larger than 97 kb about 250 each. in the time being they are in the test section if you want to look there. sorry for all the inconvenience.

November 30, 2009, 01:04 AM	#7
Billvert Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2009 Posts: 6	I do not have the rifle with me now, it is across town. I did write down all the info I could find on it I am looking for it now... ok all I wrote down was Leopold Detacho Mark II. I thought that was just the scope mount. I guess I will have to go by and get some more info of fthe rifle for proper identification. I thought I really looked it over well and didn't see any markings except a serial # on the rifle itself.

November 30, 2009, 01:10 AM	#8
Billvert Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2009 Posts: 6	My wife says it is a .30-06 and she calls it "military modified" I think she must mean it was a military weapon modified for hunting?

November 30, 2009, 01:23 AM	#9
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,457	That's a 1903 Springfield sporter. __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

November 30, 2009, 08:50 AM	#10
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,539	The wife is right. The illustrated rifle is a sporterized 1903 Springfield with the military stock and hardware removed. If the barrel hasn't been replaced it is caliber .30-06. It is as good a hunting rifle as most, but resale value of such things is fairly low unless the work was done by somebody famous. A few hundred bucks would be about it.

November 30, 2009, 09:32 AM	#11
Slamfire Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Posts: 5,261	Probably sporterized in the 50's, as that decade seemed to have the most sporterized military rifles. I doubt it was after as the right side is drilled and tapped for a Lyman 48 rear. By the time you get into the 60's, scopes are the norm. You ought to find the serial number and determine if it is single heat treat receiver, or a high number. If it is a single heat treat, the value of the rifle is in the parts value range.

November 30, 2009, 09:22 PM	#12
Billvert Junior Member Join Date: November 29, 2009 Posts: 6	Thanks for all the info everyone. I will get the serial number the next time I visit the MIL (probably this week) and post it. I will also check for ammo but the wife is pretty sure it is a .30-06.