My new EDC, Kahr PM9 NICE!

HighValleyRanch · October 24, 2018, 11:48 AM

Just picked up my Kahr PM9 yesterday.
What a super nice size for carry. I can pocket carry, IWB, belly band, etc.
It's so small and light.

I took it down to the field and shot a dozen rounds of 9mm WW and Federal.
Very controllable recoil.

This one is the all black with night sights.
I think this is the one!

Since I already have a Kahr K40, I'm used to the "revolver like" trigger.
Needs a break in, so will be shooting a bunch in the next week or so.

Hope I don't run into a Kahr MK9. I would have to buy it!

gw44 · October 24, 2018, 12:34 PM

I have carried a PM 9 for 5yrs now, its a great gun !!!

Dan-O · October 24, 2018, 02:29 PM

I carried a pm9 on and off for a decade. I have the stainless with nighties. My mk9 is a sweet package too.

I shoot thumbs forwards, and I take a dremel to the slide release on all my kahrs.

Charlie98 · October 24, 2018, 04:30 PM

I've got a CW9... I like it a lot, but not quite as much as my CW9's. It does serve a purpose, however, and I find I carry it more and more when I'm going out... it's smaller size just makes it that much easier to carry.

I will say, I really have to practice drawing the CM9 from the holster... just that missing 'inth of the grip makes it a bit more difficult to draw and present in a controlled manner.

glockman55 · October 24, 2018, 04:56 PM

My PM 9 goes with me every day.. I have the PM 45 as well.. I love the black version.. kAHR 9.jpg

MarkCO · October 24, 2018, 06:20 PM

Have 2 stainless PM9s, one with night sights. Great little pistols. In the FIST ultrathin IWB kydex holster, almost don't know it is there.

Bartholomew Roberts · October 24, 2018, 06:28 PM

I think they are about as small as a 9mm can get and still be useful beyond arm’s reach.

MarkCO · October 24, 2018, 06:43 PM

Only other I like in the size is my PM9. It is great, but has the NiB coated slide.

JERRYS. · October 24, 2018, 08:10 PM

one of the best if not the best micro 9mm made.

KyJim · October 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

I often carry a CM9 in a pocket holster. The long trigger pull doesn't bother me a bit because it is smooth. Congrats on your new EDC.

HighValleyRanch · October 25, 2018, 11:10 AM

The "SLINGSHOT" issue?
Is it overblown?

I have never had a problem with my used K40, so was not even aware of the issue until reading about the problem on the internet. So I assumed this was an issue with brand new Kahrs.

So there is alot of talk about not being able to "slingshot" the first round from the magazine into the chamber.
I know that Kahr recommends locking the slide back and using the slide release to chamber the round......
But that is probably lawyer talk.

With my brand new Kahr PM9, I had no issues chambering a dozen rounds (using a 9mm dummy round) from the magazine using an overhand rack. I just made sure to pull all the way to the rear and let it slam home. I cannot see how pulling the slide all the way to the rear is different than releasing the slide release. The force has to be the same as the distance of the slide coming forward is the same.

The only issue I see is if the user rides the the slide forward minimizing the forward motion, but being taught not to do that, I don't see any issues with racking the slide to chamber the first round.

Of course I always thought of slingshot method different than overhand release. The only pistol I "slingshot" is a Ruger Mark series as I find it hard to overhand rack the bolt.

Charlie98 · October 25, 2018, 02:13 PM

High Valley,

I've never really had a problem with either method, even though Kahr specifically states not to do it. I have fiddled with it and rode the slide forward and it will fail to go fully into battery about 50% of the time when you do that... so maybe that's what they are trying to have people avoid. Once in a blue moon, dropping the slide even with the slide catch, the slide will fail to go the last 1/8" or so into full battery... once it starts doing that, I just swap the recoil spring with a new one and no more problems. I think it's more that the cartridge is catching on the extractor... a quick bump to the rear of the slide puts it into battery... something easy to remedy at the range, but not so much at The Moment of Truth.

libiglou · October 25, 2018, 04:38 PM

when I had my cw9 I slingshot it all the time,actually its how I trained. Always went bang just be aggressive with it

Akgeezer · October 25, 2018, 08:02 PM

A CM 9 has been my EDC for more years than I can remember. The fact that it is so easy to carry means you will carry! It is a great shooter and a reliable shooter. Enjoy your new partner!

KyJim · October 25, 2018, 10:43 PM

When I bought my CM9 I did see some reports of issues using the sling shot method. I suspect it was user error, not cleanly releasing the slide and retarding forward momentum. I tried the sling shot method with no problems, but I mostly just use the slide release lever.

gnystrom · October 26, 2018, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighValleyRanch

The "SLINGSHOT" issue?
Is it overblown?

I have never had a problem with my used K40, so was not even aware of the issue until reading about the problem on the internet. So I assumed this was an issue with brand new Kahrs.

So there is alot of talk about not being able to "slingshot" the first round from the magazine into the chamber.
I know that Kahr recommends locking the slide back and using the slide release to chamber the round......
But that is probably lawyer talk.

With my brand new Kahr PM9, I had no issues chambering a dozen rounds (using a 9mm dummy round) from the magazine using an overhand rack. I just made sure to pull all the way to the rear and let it slam home. I cannot see how pulling the slide all the way to the rear is different than releasing the slide release. The force has to be the same as the distance of the slide coming forward is the same.

The only issue I see is if the user rides the the slide forward minimizing the forward motion, but being taught not to do that, I don't see any issues with racking the slide to chamber the first round.

Of course I always thought of slingshot method different than overhand release. The only pistol I "slingshot" is a Ruger Mark series as I find it hard to overhand rack the bolt.

Firstoff, the PM9 is a great carry gun especially in a well made leather pocket holster. I carried mine for years wearing lightweight wool dress pants.
The SLINGSHOT
My gun is around 9 years old so I do not know if Kahr has altered their followers but I followed the sanding advice in the link provided. All I did was remove the follower, wrap a piece of fine 400 grit sandpaper around a suitable dowel and slightly altered the shape of the follower. I did nothing to the top of the follower as pictured in the link, just slight sanding in the groove taking maybe a minute of total sanding time. I just lengthened the transition point. It worked perfectly for me and I now have the option of closing the slide as slowly as I want with no feeding issues at all. I have three mags and did them one at a time testing each before doing more sanding.
Go here for the sanding link

Aftermarket follower manufacturer that I know nothing about.

BTW, If you seek a really great IWB holster especially for AWIB check our Vedder Holsters.

HistoryJunky · October 27, 2018, 03:51 AM

I recently sold my CM9. I actually liked it quite a bit but found the recoil to be more than I liked. As a result, I didn't shoot it as much as I should.

Racking the slide instead of releasing it can be an issue. I've never used any of the larger models, but on the CM9 the recoil spring is pretty tight. If you don't rack it with authority you're going to jam up the gun. Just make sure to pull the slide all the way back and let it fly.

I only sold the Kahr because I always wear jeans and a belt, and my G26 is not much bigger.

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JERRYS. · October 27, 2018, 10:52 AM

Quote:

I only sold the Kahr because I always wear jeans and a belt, and my G26 is not much bigger.

I had the PM45 and did the same thing because it was sized very similar to my G26. my PM9 went on to someone else because I had my eye on something classic I wanted at the time....

HighValleyRanch · October 27, 2018, 11:05 AM

To me, there is a huge difference in size between a Kahr PM9 and a glock 26!
Not even close.

orionengnr · October 27, 2018, 07:04 PM

I have been carrying a Kahr PM9 for about ten years now.
Mine originally had the "barrel peening" issue. Kahr fixed it, and since then, I have been shooting it and carrying it. Especially after my third back surgery, at which point I quit carrying 1911s and S&W revolvers.

I have tried any number of other mini-and-micro 9s, and nothing achieves the Kahr's balance of size, weight, and shootability. When something better comes along, I'll probably switch. But that's going to take some monumental engineering.

Quote:

To me, there is a huge difference in size between a Kahr PM9 and a glock 26!
Not even close.

Truer words were never spoken. The difference in the two, on the hip or in the pocket, is night and day. Never mind in the hand...I have never found a double stack that didn't feel like a 2x4.

dean1818 · October 28, 2018, 08:17 AM

I had the CM9 and K40

Both were good guns

The follower design does need updated (If it hasnt already been done)

I was never able to get accurate double taps, and I never got comfortable with the slightly slower draw from a pocket so moved to M&Ps and IWB carry

Seven High · October 28, 2018, 05:21 PM

The Kahr PM9 and CM9 are both great ccw pistols. The only downside to them is that they have a tendency to break the leg of the magazine follower during firing. The feed ramp was to blame. The factory will send a replacement but it doesn’t fix the underlying problem. Metal followers can be purchased which will stop it.

HighValleyRanch · October 28, 2018, 05:36 PM

still waiting for Magguts to come out with their Kahr kits which should have metal followers.

Fishbed77 · October 29, 2018, 08:32 AM

Have owned a CM9 for years and carried it on an off through those years. Through that time, it's been accurate and perfectly reliable.

Honestly, there's nothing pistols like the Glock 43 and M&P Shield do that the PM9/CM9 haven't been doing just as well for years.

MarkCO · October 29, 2018, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishbed77

Have owned a CM9 for years and carried it on an off through those years. Through that time, it's been accurate and perfectly reliable.

Honestly, there's nothing pistols like the Glock 43 and M&P Shield do that the PM9/CM9 haven't been doing just as well for years.

It seems everyone and their brother want me to switch from what I prefer (PM9s and a PF9) to what they prefer. A buddy was adamant that the G43 was all that an a bag of chips, so I went to the range and we shot them in drills and such for an hour or so. He bought a CM9 last week.

October 24, 2018, 04:30 PM	#4
Charlie98 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2006 Location: Great state of Texas Posts: 1,077	I've got a CW9... I like it a lot, but not quite as much as my CW9's. It does serve a purpose, however, and I find I carry it more and more when I'm going out... it's smaller size just makes it that much easier to carry. I will say, I really have to practice drawing the CM9 from the holster... just that missing 'inth of the grip makes it a bit more difficult to draw and present in a controlled manner. __________________ _______________ "I have this pistol pointed at your heart!" "That is my least vulnerable spot."

October 24, 2018, 04:56 PM	#5
glockman55 Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 179	My PM 9 goes with me every day.. I have the PM 45 as well.. I love the black version.. kAHR 9.jpg Last edited by glockman55; October 24, 2018 at 05:14 PM.

October 24, 2018, 06:20 PM	#6
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,308	Have 2 stainless PM9s, one with night sights. Great little pistols. In the FIST ultrathin IWB kydex holster, almost don't know it is there. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

October 24, 2018, 06:43 PM	#8
MarkCO Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 1998 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 4,308	Only other I like in the size is my PM9. It is great, but has the NiB coated slide. __________________ Good Shooting, MarkCO www.CarbonArms.us

October 25, 2018, 11:10 AM	#11
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	The "SLINGSHOT" issue? The "SLINGSHOT" issue? Is it overblown? I have never had a problem with my used K40, so was not even aware of the issue until reading about the problem on the internet. So I assumed this was an issue with brand new Kahrs. So there is alot of talk about not being able to "slingshot" the first round from the magazine into the chamber. I know that Kahr recommends locking the slide back and using the slide release to chamber the round...... But that is probably lawyer talk. With my brand new Kahr PM9, I had no issues chambering a dozen rounds (using a 9mm dummy round) from the magazine using an overhand rack. I just made sure to pull all the way to the rear and let it slam home. I cannot see how pulling the slide all the way to the rear is different than releasing the slide release. The force has to be the same as the distance of the slide coming forward is the same. The only issue I see is if the user rides the the slide forward minimizing the forward motion, but being taught not to do that, I don't see any issues with racking the slide to chamber the first round. Of course I always thought of slingshot method different than overhand release. The only pistol I "slingshot" is a Ruger Mark series as I find it hard to overhand rack the bolt. __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

October 24, 2018, 12:34 PM	#2
gw44 Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 311	I have carried a PM 9 for 5yrs now, its a great gun !!!

October 24, 2018, 02:29 PM	#3
Dan-O Senior Member Join Date: August 3, 2011 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 969	I carried a pm9 on and off for a decade. I have the stainless with nighties. My mk9 is a sweet package too. I shoot thumbs forwards, and I take a dremel to the slide release on all my kahrs.

October 24, 2018, 06:28 PM	#7
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	I think they are about as small as a 9mm can get and still be useful beyond arm’s reach.

October 24, 2018, 08:10 PM	#9
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,969	one of the best if not the best micro 9mm made.

October 24, 2018, 10:03 PM	#10
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	I often carry a CM9 in a pocket holster. The long trigger pull doesn't bother me a bit because it is smooth. Congrats on your new EDC.

October 25, 2018, 02:13 PM	#12
Charlie98 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2006 Location: Great state of Texas Posts: 1,077	High Valley, I've never really had a problem with either method, even though Kahr specifically states not to do it. I have fiddled with it and rode the slide forward and it will fail to go fully into battery about 50% of the time when you do that... so maybe that's what they are trying to have people avoid. Once in a blue moon, dropping the slide even with the slide catch, the slide will fail to go the last 1/8" or so into full battery... once it starts doing that, I just swap the recoil spring with a new one and no more problems. I think it's more that the cartridge is catching on the extractor... a quick bump to the rear of the slide puts it into battery... something easy to remedy at the range, but not so much at The Moment of Truth. __________________ _______________ "I have this pistol pointed at your heart!" "That is my least vulnerable spot."

October 25, 2018, 04:38 PM	#13
libiglou Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2017 Posts: 184	when I had my cw9 I slingshot it all the time,actually its how I trained. Always went bang just be aggressive with it

October 25, 2018, 08:02 PM	#14
Akgeezer Member Join Date: September 24, 2005 Location: Mason, Ohio Posts: 76	A CM 9 has been my EDC for more years than I can remember. The fact that it is so easy to carry means you will carry! It is a great shooter and a reliable shooter. Enjoy your new partner! __________________ Happiness is a warm gun mama. --- Yes, it is!!! Springfield Armory XD-40 Tactical, Bersa 9mm Ultra Compact, Kahr CM9, EAA Windicator 357, Springfield 1903 30.06, AK-47 GP WASR 10, ArmaLite M-15TN, Marlin Glendale Model 60, Savage/Stevens 320, and ....

October 25, 2018, 10:43 PM	#15
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	When I bought my CM9 I did see some reports of issues using the sling shot method. I suspect it was user error, not cleanly releasing the slide and retarding forward momentum. I tried the sling shot method with no problems, but I mostly just use the slide release lever.

October 27, 2018, 03:51 AM	#17
HistoryJunky Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2010 Location: Freeport, IL Posts: 833	I recently sold my CM9. I actually liked it quite a bit but found the recoil to be more than I liked. As a result, I didn't shoot it as much as I should. Racking the slide instead of releasing it can be an issue. I've never used any of the larger models, but on the CM9 the recoil spring is pretty tight. If you don't rack it with authority you're going to jam up the gun. Just make sure to pull the slide all the way back and let it fly. I only sold the Kahr because I always wear jeans and a belt, and my G26 is not much bigger. Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk

October 27, 2018, 11:05 AM	#19
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	To me, there is a huge difference in size between a Kahr PM9 and a glock 26! Not even close. __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

October 28, 2018, 08:17 AM	#21
dean1818 Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Frisco Texas Posts: 844	I had the CM9 and K40 Both were good guns The follower design does need updated (If it hasnt already been done) I was never able to get accurate double taps, and I never got comfortable with the slightly slower draw from a pocket so moved to M&Ps and IWB carry __________________ An imperfect servant of my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Buying American made, wherever I still can

October 28, 2018, 05:21 PM	#22
Seven High Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Posts: 650	The Kahr PM9 and CM9 are both great ccw pistols. The only downside to them is that they have a tendency to break the leg of the magazine follower during firing. The feed ramp was to blame. The factory will send a replacement but it doesn’t fix the underlying problem. Metal followers can be purchased which will stop it.

October 28, 2018, 05:36 PM	#23
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,066	still waiting for Magguts to come out with their Kahr kits which should have metal followers. __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

October 29, 2018, 08:32 AM	#24
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Have owned a CM9 for years and carried it on an off through those years. Through that time, it's been accurate and perfectly reliable. Honestly, there's nothing pistols like the Glock 43 and M&P Shield do that the PM9/CM9 haven't been doing just as well for years.