March 27, 2013, 07:32 AM | #26 |
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"Not entirely true. Hazmat fees are "allowed" not dictated. What DOT does dictate is the extra record keeping and storage requirements that shippers must use when transporting "hazardous material". Shippers are allowed to offset the cost of that extra requirement by charging a fee - not that it really costs that much for extra record keeping and handling for a box of primers or powder. I too wish they would hurry up and get on with the removal of primers from the list."
You are splitting hairs. I manufacture explosives that have to be classified by DOT, I know how the system works.
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March 27, 2013, 01:15 PM | #29 | |
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My calculation was dividing a HAZMAT fee of $27.50 by 48 pounds, which I believe is the maximum weight for a single HAZMAT fee. I said 70 pounds earlier, but I was confusing the HAZMAT max weight with the USPS Priority Mail max weight. So, $27.50 divided by 48 pounds is about $.57 per pound extra cost from the HAZMAT fee. Yes, that's a little bit low, since the box and the plastic jugs will weigh something, but it's in the ballpark. |
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My primers are 209s - for shotgun - considerably larger and heavier
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Winchester 209 primers 1000 count weigh 2 lb 12 oz
Federal 209 Primers 1000 count weigh 3 lb 2 oz Remington 209 Primers 1000 count weigh 2 lb 15 oz I did not have any sleeves of 5000 in the house here to weigh. We keep full sleeves in one of our farm outbuildings. So for a sleeve of 5000 you could multiply by 5 and add about a half pound for the cardboard box. |
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Thanks - I had no idea that shotgun primers were so much bigger!
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How long that is depends how much you work (bell and crimp) the case mouths ..... Keeping away from max loads and using a gun that has a fully supported, properly sized chamber helps as well. I have .45 ACP cases that have been fired, cleaned and reloaded so many times that the headstamp is getting hard to read .... until the case mouth cracks, I keep on usin' 'em. |
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I am loading 45 acp currently at a cost of 20 cents a round all in using 230 gn fmj from precision delta, VV n320, starline brass, and CCI LPP. That cost includes all shipping and hazmat fees.
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Shipping weight per PV on 209s is 15# per sleeve of 5000 so we were only able to get one sleeve to go with 4 8# jugs to be shipped in one box for one hazmat; a second sleeve would have put us 3# over the weight limit
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Makes sense - I was *completely* ignorant as to how much shotgun primers weigh.
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I've used a bunch of Missouri Bullets' stuff - .380, .38 Spl, .40 S&W, 9mm and .45 ACP. I think you'll be happy with them once they arrive.
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I have heard nothing but good things about them and their product. They should be here any day now and I can't wait to start working up a new load.
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