Opinion - take a MAG-20 without Mas?

iamkris · April 27, 2011, 05:53 PM

After 2 years of trying to find a training class that lines up with my schedule (heavy international business travel and 3 kids in lots of sports and activities tend to fill up nearly every weeknight and weekends), I finally found a class I can take.

I just found out there is a MAG-20R class about 3 hours from me on June 25-26. *Unfortunately I learned that Mas Ayoob isn't teaching it...very sad because I was excited to learn direct from him.

Opinions? Do I pay the money for a "name brand school" but only get one of his understudy instructors or do I pay much lower price for a course from a lesser known trainer (like Steve Fisher at MDFI...still a decent name)?

MLeake · April 27, 2011, 06:03 PM

One reason I will take MAG-40 later this year is the Massad Ayoob Group promise to provide expert defense witness services, should they ever be required, to their grads.

Even without Mas (though that would be a bummer) I think that is a good value.

dawg23 · May 1, 2011, 08:13 PM

This may or may not be of significance to you, but almost half of the MAG20 class consists of videos made by Mas ~15 years ago.

You're gonna see the videos irrespective of who the instructor may be.

April 27, 2011, 05:53 PM	#1
iamkris Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2002 Location: SW Michigan Posts: 296	Opinion - take a MAG-20 without Mas? After 2 years of trying to find a training class that lines up with my schedule (heavy international business travel and 3 kids in lots of sports and activities tend to fill up nearly every weeknight and weekends), I finally found a class I can take. I just found out there is a MAG-20R class about 3 hours from me on June 25-26. *Unfortunately I learned that Mas Ayoob isn't teaching it...very sad because I was excited to learn direct from him. Opinions? Do I pay the money for a "name brand school" but only get one of his understudy instructors or do I pay much lower price for a course from a lesser known trainer (like Steve Fisher at MDFI...still a decent name)? __________________ NRA Life Endowment Member SAF Life Member NRA Certified Rifle Instructor Ultima Ratio Civis - the last method of a citizen

May 1, 2011, 08:13 PM	#3
dawg23 Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2001 Location: Louisiana Posts: 403	This may or may not be of significance to you, but almost half of the MAG20 class consists of videos made by Mas ~15 years ago. You're gonna see the videos irrespective of who the instructor may be. __________________ . www.PersonalDefenseTraining.net

April 27, 2011, 06:03 PM	#2
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	One reason I will take MAG-40 later this year is the Massad Ayoob Group promise to provide expert defense witness services, should they ever be required, to their grads. Even without Mas (though that would be a bummer) I think that is a good value.