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Old July 13, 2020, 08:12 AM   #1
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38 (.3555) 158 gr Bullets SJHP Bullets

Anyone know what cartridge/firearm these bullets (made in Serbia) are intended for? Can't find them in any of my manuals. Would appear to be intended for 38 (really??)? Any thoughts?
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Old July 13, 2020, 08:40 AM   #2
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Old July 13, 2020, 08:43 AM   #3
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Yup. 9mm P subsonic. There are even "recipes."
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Old July 13, 2020, 09:49 AM   #4
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.3555 bullets are for 9mm. .38 Special takes .3590 bullets in lead, or .3580 in jacketed.

https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads...sting-Copy.pdf
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Old July 13, 2020, 10:07 AM   #5
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If they are PPU (PRVI PARTIZAN), they are made for 38/357 revolvers. They do things a little different over there.

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog...roductId/12619

But you can use them for 9mm.

Their 9mm bullets are .3545", but their 380 bullets are .3555".
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.3555 bullets are for 9mm. .38 Special takes .3590 bullets in lead, or .3580 in jacketed.
But who makes .358" jacketed bullets for 38/357 calibers? Jacketed bullets for revolvers made here in the USA are .357".

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.3555 bullets are for 9mm. .38 Special takes .3590 bullets in lead, or .3580 in jacketed.
But who makes .358" jacketed bullets for 38/357 calibers? Jacketed bullets for revolvers made here in the USA are .357".
Those numbers are SAAMI maximum. For .38 Special and .357 Magnum, the full spec is .3590-.0030 for lead and .3580-.0030 for jacketed.

For 9mm Luger, the full spec is .3555-.0030

https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads...sting-Copy.pdf
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Old July 13, 2020, 02:03 PM   #9
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If they are PPU (PRVI PARTIZAN), they are made for 38/357 revolvers. They do things a little different over there.
I believe we have a winner. If anyone has data for 9 mm with a bullet this heavy (158 g), I'd like to see it. Not in any of my manuals.

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Old July 13, 2020, 05:17 PM   #10
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Old July 14, 2020, 01:19 PM   #11
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Good try, but we're talking "semi jacketed' bullets here, not "cast" (see link below)

https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...st+vs+jacketed
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Old July 14, 2020, 02:19 PM   #12
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There isn't much data for 158 grain bullets in the 9mm. Vihtavuori has some data for 150 and 165 grain bullets:

https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading.../?cartridge=89


There is some data at the link below, but it is not pressure-tested, only pressure-estimated, so one would have to be very cautious when working up loads with this data.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editor...mm-luger/99514
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