Thoughts on Gemtech Outback II 22LR silencer

dubsRedhawk · December 17, 2016, 02:02 PM

I can basically have an almost new Gemtech Outback II silencer and the Ruger 10/22 it's attached to if I just do the NFA paperwork. Just trying to figure out if it's worth the hassle. I will get the rifle no matter what and I already have another stock barrel for it.

The issue is just how effective the suppressor is. I shot the gun with standard super sonic ammo and couldn't believe my dad would spend so much on a suppressor and the stamp for such a little sound reduction. That was before I understood the need to run subsonics through it. I have not shot the rifle with the subs so I don't know just how quite it is.

Any experience on this little guy out there?

Theohazard · December 17, 2016, 05:58 PM

I haven't seen one of those in a while, but they are pretty quiet cans if I remember correctly. They're not going to be as quiet as some of the newer cans out there like the ACC Element II or the Dead Air Mask, but the Outback II should still provide fairly decent sound reduction. Now that you know to use subsonic ammo when shooting a suppressed. 22 rifle, you should be good to go.

If I remember correctly the Outback II uses aluminum baffles and isn't user-serviceable, so cleaning it is going to be pretty difficult. Unless it's the newer user-serviceable version, which means you'll be able to take it apart for cleaning.

It sounds from your post like this can will be free? I say go for it: It should provide good performance and if it's the non-user-serviceable version it will still last for thousands of rounds before performance starts to degrade. For just the $200 tax stamp, it seems like a pretty good deal.

Mobuck · December 17, 2016, 10:13 PM

Doesn't the transfer have to go through a Class 3 dealer or is that just to cross state lines?
As for maintenance of the "sealed" rimfire cans, I've heard a sonic cleaner does the trick.

TMD · December 17, 2016, 10:26 PM

A free can and only have to pay the tax stamp. Can't go wrong. I will say they are addictive and before you know it you'll have a stack of stamps.

raimius · December 18, 2016, 01:08 AM

Yes, worth $200.
Also, you don't have to use it on that gun, if you want it for something else.

hknut · December 19, 2016, 04:24 PM

A friend of mine who has several Gemech's commented on how much quieter my SWR (now Silencerco) Spectre was over his Outback.

Theohazard · December 19, 2016, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobuck

Doesn't the transfer have to go through a Class 3 dealer or is that just to cross state lines?

No dealer needed if it's a private intrastate transfer between residents of that state. Of course a Form 4 still needs to be filed, but no dealer needs to be involved; the seller just keeps the silencer until the tax stamp comes back.

As always, I'll emphasize that this is federal law; obviously state and local laws could change things.

Chainsaw. · December 19, 2016, 07:23 PM

Absolutely worth it. With out a doubt.

Sgt Pepper · December 19, 2016, 09:29 PM

Definitely worth it. I have an Outback IID, which can be disassembled for cleaning if desired. I have found mine to be ridiculously quiet even on my Ruger 22/45 Lite. Subsonic ammo and heavier rounds work more quietly than the supersonic and lighter rounds, but even those are quiet enough that I can discharge one near others who will never ever look in my direction. I refer to it as my tactical stapler.

Engineer · January 5, 2017, 11:36 PM

Even though I have quite a few rimfire suppressors, I still consider the Outback II to be a good performer. It's small, light and works remarkably well.

Is the model you are looking at a sealed model or one that can be taken apart (II-D)? If it's the former, do you know how many rounds have been put through it? While it can be sent in for an upgrade to their G-core for $250, a new GM-22 can be had for about $50 more.

So in short, if it's a II-D model, jump on it. If it's an older model that hasn't had too many rounds through it (you said it was 'like new'), I'd still go for it. I would only hesitate if it was an older model that had bricks and bricks of ammo put through it.

December 17, 2016, 02:02 PM	#1
dubsRedhawk Member Join Date: March 15, 2016 Posts: 46	Thoughts on Gemtech Outback II 22LR silencer I can basically have an almost new Gemtech Outback II silencer and the Ruger 10/22 it's attached to if I just do the NFA paperwork. Just trying to figure out if it's worth the hassle. I will get the rifle no matter what and I already have another stock barrel for it. The issue is just how effective the suppressor is. I shot the gun with standard super sonic ammo and couldn't believe my dad would spend so much on a suppressor and the stamp for such a little sound reduction. That was before I understood the need to run subsonics through it. I have not shot the rifle with the subs so I don't know just how quite it is. Any experience on this little guy out there?

December 17, 2016, 05:58 PM	#2
Theohazard Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2012 Location: Western PA Posts: 3,829	I haven't seen one of those in a while, but they are pretty quiet cans if I remember correctly. They're not going to be as quiet as some of the newer cans out there like the ACC Element II or the Dead Air Mask, but the Outback II should still provide fairly decent sound reduction. Now that you know to use subsonic ammo when shooting a suppressed. 22 rifle, you should be good to go. If I remember correctly the Outback II uses aluminum baffles and isn't user-serviceable, so cleaning it is going to be pretty difficult. Unless it's the newer user-serviceable version, which means you'll be able to take it apart for cleaning. It sounds from your post like this can will be free? I say go for it: It should provide good performance and if it's the non-user-serviceable version it will still last for thousands of rounds before performance starts to degrade. For just the $200 tax stamp, it seems like a pretty good deal. __________________ 0331: "Accuracy by volume."

December 19, 2016, 04:24 PM	#6
hknut Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2005 Location: Olympia, Wa. Posts: 535	A friend of mine who has several Gemech's commented on how much quieter my SWR (now Silencerco) Spectre was over his Outback. __________________ "Gun control is like trying to reduce Drunk Driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars" Walk softly and carry a big SIG.

December 19, 2016, 07:23 PM	#8
Chainsaw. Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2015 Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain. Posts: 1,774	Absolutely worth it. With out a doubt. __________________ Just shoot the damn thing.

December 17, 2016, 10:13 PM	#3
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	Doesn't the transfer have to go through a Class 3 dealer or is that just to cross state lines? As for maintenance of the "sealed" rimfire cans, I've heard a sonic cleaner does the trick.

December 17, 2016, 10:26 PM	#4
TMD Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 1,293	A free can and only have to pay the tax stamp. Can't go wrong. I will say they are addictive and before you know it you'll have a stack of stamps.

December 18, 2016, 01:08 AM	#5
raimius Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2008 Posts: 2,199	Yes, worth $200. Also, you don't have to use it on that gun, if you want it for something else.

December 19, 2016, 09:29 PM	#9
Sgt Pepper Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 811	Definitely worth it. I have an Outback IID, which can be disassembled for cleaning if desired. I have found mine to be ridiculously quiet even on my Ruger 22/45 Lite. Subsonic ammo and heavier rounds work more quietly than the supersonic and lighter rounds, but even those are quiet enough that I can discharge one near others who will never ever look in my direction. I refer to it as my tactical stapler.

January 5, 2017, 11:36 PM	#10
Engineer Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2000 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 150	Even though I have quite a few rimfire suppressors, I still consider the Outback II to be a good performer. It's small, light and works remarkably well. Is the model you are looking at a sealed model or one that can be taken apart (II-D)? If it's the former, do you know how many rounds have been put through it? While it can be sent in for an upgrade to their G-core for $250, a new GM-22 can be had for about $50 more. So in short, if it's a II-D model, jump on it. If it's an older model that hasn't had too many rounds through it (you said it was 'like new'), I'd still go for it. I would only hesitate if it was an older model that had bricks and bricks of ammo put through it.