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Old November 3, 2023, 08:41 PM   #1
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U.S. Supremes Accepts Review of NRA Suit Claiming NY Violated First Amendment

The NRA today announced the U.S. Supreme Court has accepted review of its suit claiming New York officials improperly used their authority to "persuade" banks and other financial institutions to blacklist the NRA due to the NRA's First Amendment right to advocate gun rights. https://www.nraila.org/articles/2023...d-free-speech. The Supreme Court order granting review on one issue is at https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/...323zr_5if6.pdf.

That issue, from the NRA's petition for certiorari, states:
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1. Does the First Amendment allow a government regulator to threaten regulated entities with
adverse regulatory actions if they do business with a
controversial speaker, as a consequence of (a) the
government’s own hostility to the speaker’s viewpoint
or (b) a perceived “general backlash” against the
speaker’s advocacy?
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...ion%20File.pdf.

As in most grants and denials of review, the Court did not reveal those voting for or against. It does take four votes to grant review.
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Old November 5, 2023, 09:00 PM   #2
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I would think the answer to that question SHOULD be obvious!
I wonder what the arguments and evidence will show.
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Old November 7, 2023, 09:25 PM   #3
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I believe even the ACLU is siding with the NRA on this. Even they can see the slippery slope NY opened up if allowed to stand.
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Old November 8, 2023, 11:38 AM   #4
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I believe even the ACLU is siding with the NRA on this. Even they can see the slippery slope NY opened up if allowed to stand.
The ACLU is funny. They still cling to the "collective right" interpretation of the Second and won't lift a finger to defend a Second Amendment case. However, let a case touch any other aspect of constitutionality and they are all over it, as they are with this First Amendment case.
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Old November 9, 2023, 11:58 AM   #5
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I would think the answer to that question SHOULD be obvious!
I wonder what the arguments and evidence will show.
That's a nice business you have there; it would be a shame if anything were to happen to it is a threat felt by small businesses in some of the more corrupt cities, but seeing it applied by bank regulators at a state level and in writing is an unusual gift.

It's even less subtle than the process by which Congress pondered revoking section 230 immunity for online platforms, then the exec sent out agents to perform ongoing consultation to these communication choke points to let them know which messages should be impeded.

The prospect that you wouldn't be able to effectively speak about your reservations about government power because the government is also your editor maybe the more straight down the middle 1st Am. question. The NY twist of making opponents of your rights violations unable to conduct banking through threats to third parties may show greater creativity.

I'm not sure which is more horrifying.
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