870 or 1100 - Page 2

model70fan · March 10, 2008, 02:47 PM

You can buy magazine extensions for the 870 from sporting goods stores, online, midway, etc... The biggest one I see in midways newest master catalog is an 8 rnd extension for $80, midway has extensions ranging from 1-8 rnd extensions, depending on barrel length and how many rounds you want etc...

SPUSCG · March 10, 2008, 07:16 PM

how hard are those to install?

rantingredneck · March 10, 2008, 07:21 PM

The extensions just screw on where the standard magazine cap normally goes. The difficulty comes when you have to grind out the dimples in some models of 870 (or 1187 for that matter). Even with the grind job it takes about 30 mins with a dremel.

rem870hunter · March 10, 2008, 07:42 PM

if you haven't bought the shotgun yet look for an older model unless you want new. especially if you want the turkey model with the shorter vent rib barrel. the older models made before 1986 didn't have the newer dimples in the mag tube. i luckily have 2 older wingmaster that i can put tubes on without pressing or dremelling dimples. my express 870 has the dimples. my fathers 1100 is over 25 years old with no problems with it ever. we used to have mag extensions tubes that fit any of the 3, that would make any of them a 7 shot,an 8 shot or a 10 shot model.

Nemsis · March 10, 2008, 11:24 PM

the 870 and the 1100 both use the same mag extention and if I were you I'd buy an aftermarket mag extention the factory ones are 2 piece and not as strong as a choate or wilson combat

SPUSCG · March 11, 2008, 04:01 PM

so before 1986? shoulkd be easy enough to find

SD_Chop · March 11, 2008, 04:47 PM

870 Marine mag with forward grip/ butler creek rear folder. And a 870 turkey express supermag

Mainah · March 13, 2008, 04:52 PM

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hey mainah, do you happen to know a good place to hunt turkeys?

Yeah, on any road that I drive to and from work. Just drive until they fly out in front of you.

Seriously, it's a big state brotha'. I'd start with the local farmers, ask them.

Stiofan · March 13, 2008, 05:16 PM

I have both, each is over 30 years old and neither has given me any problems. I assume the 870 you speak of is a Wingmaster, in which case it's a toss up, I'd take either. If the 870 is an Express model I'd go for the 1100 due to the purty factor.

Snub357 · March 16, 2008, 03:04 PM

870

You can turn it into whatever you want.

SPUSCG · March 17, 2008, 01:21 PM

i dont think shooting turkeys out my windows a good idea, but i have seen them out in sebago on the road.

RandyStacyE · March 17, 2008, 03:17 PM

I have the Remington 870 express magnum:

It came with the shorter barrel and the longer barrel for water fowl (ducks and such). I chose to slap on the short barrel for home defense.

The first thing I did was ditch the wood. I bought the TacStar Forend Grip. The Advanced Technologies Forend Grip SUCKS because it will twist from side to side with very little force. The TacStar Forend Grip does not move at all, feels much more comfortable, and is rock solid. I appreciate the stability that this grip provides and makes shooting much more enjoyable because of it.

I then purchased the Advanced Technologies Folding Stock. This stock may not be the most comfortable stock in the world, far from it, but it certainly does the job. I certainly do not feel the need to replace it unless I find a MUCH better folding stock (which hasn’t happened yet).

As far as readily available magazine extensions go, I used the TacStar extension. They are made of steel and you can use barrel clamps without squishing them (which causes all kinds of problems). You can also clamp a tactical light to the extension (I personally love a light on mine).

The Advanced Technologies magazine extensions suck. They are plastic and you can not clamp anything to them (which caused me MANY problems). They are just JUNK.

I do like the Mossberg too. One thing I like about the Mossberg is that straight out of the box it doesn't require a magazine extension.

classic095 · March 18, 2008, 10:03 AM

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Get the 870. Don't trust that new-fangled, semi automatic technology. Give it a few more years to get the bugs worked out of it. Let law enforcement and the military play with it for a few years to see if it actually has any merit to it

NEW FANGLED""?????? Semi Auto been around for years,, Browing A5s ,,Rem model 11 (1905-1910), Rem 878A, Rem 48 Mohawk. Remington 1100, been shooting one since 1979 and it hasnt missed a beat yet..

Rugerdoug · March 18, 2008, 07:24 PM

How about the Express Turkey Camo Shotgun. It has a 21 inch barrel. Can this be used as a SD/HD shotgun with the Choke removed? Only 3 inches more than an 18" barrel?

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...urkey_camo.asp

roy reali · March 18, 2008, 07:33 PM

I guess some folks are still uncertain about the reliability of semi auto shotguns. I suppose that technically a pump is a little more fail safe. With that in mind, wouldn't a side-by-side shotgun be even more reliable. If someone is really that concerned about their shotgun failing at a critical time, wouldn't a double barreled shotgun be the ultimate in relaibilty?

Granted, a person will loose several rounds at the ready be using a double barrel. But a pump can jam just like a semi can. I don't think the odds of a side-by-side jamming are not near as high.

So, for everyone concerned with mechanical reliability may I suggest that you pick up a good double barreled shotgun. You will only have two shots immediately avaiable, but the gun is less likely to malfuntion then is a pump or semi auto shotgun.

Nemsis · March 18, 2008, 07:37 PM

rugerdoug I'm not if this is what you meant but I want to make sure noboby reads your post and tries to shoot thier gun with the choke removed and the threads exposed, you can switch out a turkey choke for a cylinder choke but nevver shoot it with no choke.

SPUSCG · March 18, 2008, 08:32 PM

the purpose of the shotgun will be mostly home defense, and training myself for when i join the police force. turkey hunting i just need a shotgun, no fancy barrells

SPUSCG · March 19, 2008, 01:37 PM

is there anything i should worry about with chamber mods, some advertised are 2 3/4 or 2 1/4 chamber mod, ect.

grey_pilgrim · March 22, 2008, 09:54 PM

If you mean chamber lengths: you can't load shells longer than the chamber length, however, you can generally load shells shorter than the chamber length. IE, i can shoot 2 and 3/4" shells in my 11-87 which is chambered for 3" shells.

Longer length generally means a longer slide pull (for a pump), but lets you throw a more powerful shell in there. Three inch winchester super x slugs will put hair on your chest (and a bruise on your shoulders) . Or maybe i'm just a wimp.

In answer to your original question, i really like my 11-87 (three inch version of a 1100), but the pump will serve you well, and in your position, i'd get the 870 with a short and long barrel. USe the short barrel for home defense, the long one for hunting. Nothing fancy.

SPUSCG · March 23, 2008, 09:58 AM

i think i will start with the pump gun and maybe buy a semi later for skeet and the like

March 10, 2008, 02:47 PM	#26
model70fan Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2007 Location: WI, MT Posts: 247	You can buy magazine extensions for the 870 from sporting goods stores, online, midway, etc... The biggest one I see in midways newest master catalog is an 8 rnd extension for $80, midway has extensions ranging from 1-8 rnd extensions, depending on barrel length and how many rounds you want etc... __________________ Armed citizens, keeping America free from tyranny since 1776 Rights are like muscles... without excersise they will deteriorate and eventually cease to exist

March 10, 2008, 07:16 PM	#27
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	how hard are those to install? __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

March 10, 2008, 07:42 PM	#29
rem870hunter Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2007 Location: N.J. and trying to decide what state to move to. Posts: 973	if you haven't bought the shotgun yet look for an older model unless you want new. especially if you want the turkey model with the shorter vent rib barrel. the older models made before 1986 didn't have the newer dimples in the mag tube. i luckily have 2 older wingmaster that i can put tubes on without pressing or dremelling dimples. my express 870 has the dimples. my fathers 1100 is over 25 years old with no problems with it ever. we used to have mag extensions tubes that fit any of the 3, that would make any of them a 7 shot,an 8 shot or a 10 shot model. __________________ BEAR Bows,Remington shotguns,Marlin rifles

March 10, 2008, 11:24 PM	#30
Nemsis Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Chicago Posts: 408	the 870 and the 1100 both use the same mag extention and if I were you I'd buy an aftermarket mag extention the factory ones are 2 piece and not as strong as a choate or wilson combat __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." --Norman Thomas

March 11, 2008, 04:01 PM	#31
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	so before 1986? shoulkd be easy enough to find __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

March 10, 2008, 07:21 PM	#28
rantingredneck Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,728	The extensions just screw on where the standard magazine cap normally goes. The difficulty comes when you have to grind out the dimples in some models of 870 (or 1187 for that matter). Even with the grind job it takes about 30 mins with a dremel.

March 11, 2008, 04:47 PM	#32
SD_Chop Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2006 Location: Va, USA Posts: 474	870 Marine mag with forward grip/ butler creek rear folder. And a 870 turkey express supermag __________________ Liberty or Death...

March 13, 2008, 05:16 PM	#34
Stiofan Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2006 Location: Panhandle, Idaho Posts: 714	I have both, each is over 30 years old and neither has given me any problems. I assume the 870 you speak of is a Wingmaster, in which case it's a toss up, I'd take either. If the 870 is an Express model I'd go for the 1100 due to the purty factor.

March 16, 2008, 03:04 PM	#35
Snub357 Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2002 Posts: 484	870 You can turn it into whatever you want. __________________ [Insert prattle here]

March 17, 2008, 01:21 PM	#36
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	i dont think shooting turkeys out my windows a good idea, but i have seen them out in sebago on the road. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

March 17, 2008, 03:17 PM	#37
RandyStacyE Junior member Join Date: February 29, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 83	I have the Remington 870 express magnum: It came with the shorter barrel and the longer barrel for water fowl (ducks and such). I chose to slap on the short barrel for home defense. The first thing I did was ditch the wood. I bought the TacStar Forend Grip. The Advanced Technologies Forend Grip SUCKS because it will twist from side to side with very little force. The TacStar Forend Grip does not move at all, feels much more comfortable, and is rock solid. I appreciate the stability that this grip provides and makes shooting much more enjoyable because of it. I then purchased the Advanced Technologies Folding Stock. This stock may not be the most comfortable stock in the world, far from it, but it certainly does the job. I certainly do not feel the need to replace it unless I find a MUCH better folding stock (which hasn’t happened yet). As far as readily available magazine extensions go, I used the TacStar extension. They are made of steel and you can use barrel clamps without squishing them (which causes all kinds of problems). You can also clamp a tactical light to the extension (I personally love a light on mine). The Advanced Technologies magazine extensions suck. They are plastic and you can not clamp anything to them (which caused me MANY problems). They are just JUNK. I do like the Mossberg too. One thing I like about the Mossberg is that straight out of the box it doesn't require a magazine extension.

March 18, 2008, 07:24 PM	#39
Rugerdoug Member Join Date: December 28, 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 56	How about the Express Turkey Camo Shotgun. It has a 21 inch barrel. Can this be used as a SD/HD shotgun with the Choke removed? Only 3 inches more than an 18" barrel? http://www.remington.com/products/fi...urkey_camo.asp

March 18, 2008, 07:33 PM	#40
roy reali Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2005 Posts: 3,248	More Reliable I guess some folks are still uncertain about the reliability of semi auto shotguns. I suppose that technically a pump is a little more fail safe. With that in mind, wouldn't a side-by-side shotgun be even more reliable. If someone is really that concerned about their shotgun failing at a critical time, wouldn't a double barreled shotgun be the ultimate in relaibilty? Granted, a person will loose several rounds at the ready be using a double barrel. But a pump can jam just like a semi can. I don't think the odds of a side-by-side jamming are not near as high. So, for everyone concerned with mechanical reliability may I suggest that you pick up a good double barreled shotgun. You will only have two shots immediately avaiable, but the gun is less likely to malfuntion then is a pump or semi auto shotgun.

March 18, 2008, 07:37 PM	#41
Nemsis Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Chicago Posts: 408	rugerdoug I'm not if this is what you meant but I want to make sure noboby reads your post and tries to shoot thier gun with the choke removed and the threads exposed, you can switch out a turkey choke for a cylinder choke but nevver shoot it with no choke. __________________ "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." --Norman Thomas

March 18, 2008, 08:32 PM	#42
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	the purpose of the shotgun will be mostly home defense, and training myself for when i join the police force. turkey hunting i just need a shotgun, no fancy barrells __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

March 19, 2008, 01:37 PM	#43
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	is there anything i should worry about with chamber mods, some advertised are 2 3/4 or 2 1/4 chamber mod, ect. __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.

March 22, 2008, 09:54 PM	#44
grey_pilgrim Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2004 Location: mid-atlantic Posts: 352	If you mean chamber lengths: you can't load shells longer than the chamber length, however, you can generally load shells shorter than the chamber length. IE, i can shoot 2 and 3/4" shells in my 11-87 which is chambered for 3" shells. Longer length generally means a longer slide pull (for a pump), but lets you throw a more powerful shell in there. Three inch winchester super x slugs will put hair on your chest (and a bruise on your shoulders) . Or maybe i'm just a wimp. In answer to your original question, i really like my 11-87 (three inch version of a 1100), but the pump will serve you well, and in your position, i'd get the 870 with a short and long barrel. USe the short barrel for home defense, the long one for hunting. Nothing fancy.

March 23, 2008, 09:58 AM	#45
SPUSCG Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2008 Posts: 3,004	i think i will start with the pump gun and maybe buy a semi later for skeet and the like __________________ Check us out: www.imfdb.org. Fun site for people who love gun movies.