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July 23, 2018, 08:23 AM | #26 |
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Cause I have lots of friends that do!!!
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July 23, 2018, 09:34 AM | #27 |
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Credit to FALPhil for the excellent article, btw!
https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho....php?p=3308632 |
July 23, 2018, 09:58 AM | #28 |
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I handload 308 and just ditch nato marked casings. I measured the inner volumes and the difference was too big.
Also the difference in case volume between different manufacturers of 308 is much higher both relatively and absolutely than in 223/9mm/45/etc. I measured these myself some years ago when I got a FAL and my 308 usage skyrocketed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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July 23, 2018, 12:01 PM | #31 |
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I love the idiotic fine lines being draw.
Here is a similar analogy to that being drawn in the civilian sector .308 and 7.62mm NATO. Not too long ago two SU-27 aircraft came up for sale in US civilian market. They are same aircraft flown by the Russian Air Force. https://theneomag.com/ They do not have the same capabilities. The Russian Air Force variant has sophisticated targeting equipment and weapons designed to kill other aircraft. The FAA approved civilian aircraft do not. .308 is the same round as 7.62mm NATO. If you are handloader, then load it to specification and the two are interchangeable. The specification is what defines 7.62mm NATO. If you load anything else then it is NOT 7.62mm NATO but a recipe of your own creation so act accordingly as your own test pilot. |
July 23, 2018, 02:24 PM | #32 |
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Would this be correct(?):
The 308 and 7.62 NATO cartridges are closer to being, essentially, the "same" round and therefore are interchangeable in rifles marked by either designation, than are the .223 and 5.56mm cartridges, which many folks think are absolutely interchangeable, when in fact some .223 rifles are known to choke on 5.56 ammo. Last edited by agtman; July 23, 2018 at 04:16 PM. |
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Now, here is a snapshot of the specifications for 7.62mm NATO and its variants. http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/i...62mm_ammo.html If your 308 cartridge does not meet these specifications then you are not shooting 7.62mm NATO despite using NATO brass but have put on your weapon prototype testing hat. I wish you luck! |
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July 25, 2018, 12:00 AM | #35 |
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BTW... My PSA PA10's 18" Nitrated, 18" SS another 18" Criterion Barrel Nitrated SS and another 20" PSA HBAR... all with adj gas blocks handle surplus 7.62x51 just fine.
And all of them love the "Sanitized DAG" First group 20rds DAG rapid fire... 100yds Second group 10rds Hirt rapid fire, 100yds Third group DAG again20rds rapid fire, 100yds |
July 25, 2018, 12:11 AM | #36 |
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XM80 10rds rapid fire , 100yds
FGMM 168gr 10rds rapid fire, 100yds 7rds FGMM 168gr..., 100yds |
July 25, 2018, 12:17 AM | #37 |
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10rds 175gr FGMM RF, 100yds
'79 Port 10rds RF, 100yds 10rds 155gr Hornady AG, RF 100yds |
July 25, 2018, 01:38 AM | #38 |
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bfoosh--what is sanitized DAG? That's some great shooting especially for rapid follow-up.
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July 25, 2018, 08:11 PM | #39 |
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Buffmans video shows it best... the headstamp is milled away... looks questionable strength wise... but danged if it doesn't shoot well.
German Law somehow... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=VTf7w9AQv-s |
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