New forum

[Hawg]

We've got a brand new (no members yet) traditional black powder forum. Come help us build a new community.

http://blackpowdertimes.com/index.php

[Lee McNelly]

waiting for 2nd email

[ozarkguy]

Thanks for the heads up Hawg. I'm giving it a shot.

[OutlawJoseyWales]

Cool, just joined, well I hope I get approved that is.

[zullo74]

Wrong thread, sorry,

[egor20]

Good luck Hawg with the new forum, I have a Bakers rifle, so I may peek into it.

[Hawg]

Thanks guys. Whacha mean second email Lee?

[DG45]

Is this new forum part of TFL or is it something different Hawg? I was noticing the categories listed and they were very specific, but I saw nothing about BP shotguns. (Maybe I just missed it?) I know there are at least a few guys on TFL who enjoy loading their own BP shotgun shells on old antique equipment and shooting them in their old antique shotguns. I don't know if there are enough of them though to have a separate category.

Anyway good luck with it. DG

[Hawg]

It has nothing to do with TFL. Thanks for the reminder I forgot shotguns.

[Bill Akins]

Hawg, I registered to join. Awaiting admin approval of my membership.

How will that other forum be different from the black powder forum here at the firing line? What is meant by "traditional" black powder forum?


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[mykeal]

'Traditional' means no discussion of in-lines.

[madcratebuilder]

Is this a do-over of the old Black Powder Times? I was member of the old site. My user name and password no longer work, lose the data base?

[Hawg]

It's Black Powder Times under new management on a different domain with a different format. Only the name remains the same. Most of the admin of this forum were mods on the old one. Mykeal we do allow discussions of ROA.

[Hawg]

Hawg, I registered to join. Awaiting admin approval of my membership.

How will that other forum be different from the black powder forum here at the firing line? What is meant by "traditional" black powder forum?

You were approved earlier. It will be a more relaxed atmosphere with the whole forum devoted to black powder with different categories for everything. Everything won't be jumbled together like it is here. We don't have a lot of rules. Nobody's gonna close a thread or get admonished for going off topic. Most of our rules pertain to content and behavior. There will be no discussion of inlines. If you want to talk about inlines there's other places like here that allow it. All of our topics pertain to traditional guns and traditional ways of doing things. There will be discussions of cartridge guns but black powder loads only.

[kadima]

Given that I am spending more time over the kitchen sink cleaning the guns from blackpowdre than actual time at the firing range, I've found a sensible thing to join the new forum.

K.

[Muler44]

Shoot, I'm in. Waiting on the approval.

[wogpotter]

Thanks for the heads-up.
I'm headed over there now to register. Please, please don't let it become a "Period Correct Purists & Re-enactors Only" traditional site though.

I appreciate traditional aspects but have seen a couple of similar places become so into "PC, hc & no farbs" that they don't hold interest for someone like me who enjoys shooting C&B & messes about with traditional equipment, but has no interest in reenacting.

[orangello]

Here's hoping they also aprove lurkers.

[wogpotter]

Done, pending approval

[4V50 Gary]

So no discussions on evil black rifles converted to single shot, in-line muzzle loading guns will be permitted there?

[sewerman]

thanx,

i just joined.......

s.m.

[Fingers McGee]

I'm in

FM

[ZVP]

I just joined too!
Since this area is almost void of "Real" BP I am often forced to shoot substitutes and I am going to appreciate this new Forums outlook on the stuff!
So far I have had exactlly one pound of real BP to shoot so I am definatelly in need of an education on the real thing!
ZVP

[Hawg]

So no discussions on evil black rifles converted to single shot, in-line muzzle loading guns will be permitted there?

Nope. We're trying to keep a historical aspect but it's not by any stretch a reenactors/thread counters forum. We allow discussions of brass framed guns and even ROA's. We do not allow discussions of modern guns( with the exception of the Ruger) or smokeless powder.

[Bill Akins]

Hawg Haggen wrote:
We're trying to keep a historical aspect but it's not by any stretch a reenactors/thread counters forum. We allow discussions of brass framed guns and even ROA's. We do not allow discussions of modern guns( with the exception of the Ruger)

Not trying to be a smart Alec here Hawg, but if it is going to be a "non modern", "historical" forum where only Victorian and pre Victorian design black powder guns and replicas thereof are being discussed, then why is the relatively modern, all coil spring, 1950's design, Ruger Old Army being allowed? Would a Ruger Old Army such as this be allowed for discussion?....



In the same vein, if as you said, it allows discussions on brass frame black powder guns there, would discussions on any non modern style design brass frame black powder gun be allowed? Like this brass frame, expanding on the historical Jonathan Browning harmonica black powder, muzzleloading rifle concept?



It's brass framed, and isn't modern, but just an expanding on the old Jonathan Browning harmonica rifle design and it is black powder and a muzzle loader too. Not that I might necessarily post about that one, but since it is brass framed and based on the historical Jonathan Browning black powder muzzleloading harmonica rifles, I am wondering if it qualifies for discussion. I just want to know what qualifies for discussion and what doesn't. And if that one wouldn't qualify for discussion because it was gas operated, what about this manually hand cranked,black powder, muzzleloading, brass frame, harmonica rifle that is based on the historical harmonica pistols and rifles?.....



As I'm sure you're aware, once restrictions are made on what kind of black powder designs can be discussed, without having a 3 inch thick book explaining exactly what can and cannot be discussed, it can quickly become an arbitrary on the spot decision situation not covered under the listed rules, where either admin or the moderators arbitrarily disallow some discussions even though those discussion subjects don't violate the listed rules. In that case members don't really know what they can post and what they can't.

One of the things I really appreciate about the Firing Line black powder forum is that as long as it shoots black powder and or if it is a cowboy style gun, members know it is allowed to be discussed. That's a simple set of rules everyone can easily understand. No possibility of being arbitrary or ambiguity.

I'm seriously not trying to be a smart Alec or split hairs here Hawg.
I just want to make sure I understand the rules before posting there.
I don't want to post anything there I shouldn't nor start out on the wrong foot.

What is traditional and historical, brass framed and allowed to be discussed and not discussed, are going to have to be very specific in the rules to avoid moderation problems.

The reason I posted this for your consideration, was precisely because I don't want to cause any moderation problems and wanted to clearly understand the rules.


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