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June 11, 2007, 12:53 AM | #1 | ||
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Gemtech G5 fails endurance test after only 750 rounds.
This is from SilencerTalk.com.
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Once the can was opened, it is seen in the photos that there are NO STRUCTURAL WELDS despite Gemtech's past claims of welding the core. The can is held together with ROLL PINS. Not a good idea for something that is supposedly rated for full auto fire. These roll pins failed during the test. Titanium is used in high temp components. Titanium is not a high temperature metal and chipped from the high heat. The only Inconel in the can is an insert to the blast baffle. This insert is held in by a roll pin. Gemtech does not tell the grade of Inconel that they use in the G5. Not trying to bad mouth a company, but my TAC-16 has better construction methods than the G5. At least TacInc doesn't claim that the TAC-16 is Mil-spec. Gemtech claims that the G5 is the "best there is". One the can is opened, we can see that it is not. I need to ask permission to repost the photos so I will post them here later. What are your thoughts?
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June 11, 2007, 12:14 PM | #3 |
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True, but the test was video taped and there was in impartial observer present. Plus, the photos of the dismantled can show very questionable construction methods were used as well as the fact that the core is NOT welded, contrary to claims made by Gemtech.
It will be interesting to view the video once it gets posted.
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June 12, 2007, 04:24 AM | #4 |
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Tagged, I would like to see this video. I have been thinking about picking up a G5 or a Halo. It sounds like the Halo would be a better choice.
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June 12, 2007, 07:34 AM | #5 |
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First off, the test was conducted by AAC. I don't put any stock in any test against any companies' product when the test is administered by a rival company. Also, the G5 is not a full auto rated can. It is listed as being able to tolerate "limited full auto use". The test in question was not a "limited full auto" test. They set-out to destroy that can, and that is what they accomplished. 8 mags at a time, 4 of them being full auto, that is not "limited". Gemtech does, and always has, stood behind their products. If you destroy them because of abuse, then the weight is on your shoulders. If you buy one of their "limited full auto" cans and do mag dump after mag dump and then complain when the can fails, then you are the bad guy, not Gemtech.
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June 12, 2007, 10:39 AM | #6 |
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VUPDblue, they did not set out to destroy the can. The test they did is the same test that the military uses to asses suppressor performance. Many suppressors from different brands have passed this test without catastrophic damage.
Gemtechs website states "the G5 is made for those that demand the apex of performance." and "The suppressor is rated for fully automatic fire." That is fully automatic fire, not "limited" or "a little bit" of full automatic fire. THE G5 IS RATED BY GEMTECH AS A FULL AUTO CAN It's not like my TAC-16 that is rated for a 100 round burst from a 20" M-16. That is limited full auto fire. The G5 is sold as a top of the line military suppressor and it failed a test that the military would have put it through. Not only did they video tape it, they also had an independent observer there as well. Once the can was opened, it was clear that there were no structural welds, despite claims by Gentech in the past that their cores are welded. Serious construction issues are noted as well.
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June 12, 2007, 11:46 AM | #7 |
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Hats off to you crosshair, their site does list the can as full auto rated. A couple dealer friends of mine have discussed with me that the G5 is rated for limited full auto fire. I have been on the verge of purchasing a 5.56 can and I inquired about the G5 a little. That's when I was told that for FA use I would be better off with a different can. I guess that is a black eye for Gemtech. I have been watching a similar thread on AR15.com. PHD almost always chimes in when there is a discussion of Gemtech products but he hasn't showed up in that thread yet. After years of having a stellar reputation in the industry, Gemtech needs to man-up and either admit that they made a SNAFU or come up with a better explanation of what happened.
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