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November 6, 2020, 10:22 PM | #26 |
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always be polite, ask first. I usually ask to dry fire, usually onle once or twice. for handguns I can generally just look down the barrel. for Rifles I ask to use a bore scope. If they don't have one I will ask to use mine. If they say no, no harm, no foul, I just wont but the gun.
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November 7, 2020, 10:24 AM | #27 |
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Bore & chamber condition - bright and shiny?
Exterior - tells of care of the previous owner Wood - any refinishing needed? BTW, years ago I saw a relatively rare rifle. When I looked at it, it seemed dirty so I asked for some rags and CLP. I dissassembled it (field strip) with the store's permission and wiped down the bolt face and then the chamber. No cleaning rod for the barrel. It looked good (no rust, pitting in areas I cleaned). Afterward I reassembled it and handed it back to the clerk who was slightly irritated that I didn't buy it after the inspection. I returned the following day and negotiated a price $50 cheaper that what they asked. We haggled and I had an extra thrown in and so I bought it.
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November 7, 2020, 10:28 AM | #28 |
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BTW, I once bought a sporterized K98 only because of its Weaver 330 scope. Scope look good and the rifle happened to be attached to it.
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November 8, 2020, 02:51 PM | #29 |
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Bought a Beretta Silver Pigeon in a Bass Pro Shop in Ohio. I asked to look at all three that they had on display so I could pick out the one with the nicest wood. The guy then tried to bring me one in a box that I hadn't even looked at....
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November 9, 2020, 01:39 PM | #30 | |
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However if someone were to dry fire (snap) my Grandfather's shotgun, they would need surgical assistance to remove my boot from their butt!
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November 9, 2020, 06:46 PM | #31 | |
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November 11, 2020, 01:03 PM | #32 |
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Possible Urban Legend here:
One time at a large gun store (LGS) I saw a handgun I was interested in on "clearance reduced" price. The clerk said the gun was new even though it's outward appearance might be described as "distressed". Here's the possible urban legend part. The clerk at the LGS said they had to take all the guns out of the display cases every night and lock them up some where else in the store. Some nights they were very careful handling the guns, other nights (particularly Friday and Saturday) they were less careful. All the inards of the gun looked good and the clerk even gave me a "display model" discount so I took it and have been please with my purchase ever since. I still wonder though...is it plausible they take ALL the guns out of ALL the display cases EVERY NIGHT? |
November 12, 2020, 09:48 AM | #33 |
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Would you buy a used car without a thorough inspection?
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November 12, 2020, 12:37 PM | #34 | |
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On the subject of inspection of "others" firearms, especially Gun-Stores, is usually acceptable by both parties on used or some that are sold as new. One that we could all agree on, is; 1) Bore, muzzle and crown condition. I know we have dealers/smiths and other sellers not to mention plenty of buyers, in this forum. What points of inspections are acceptable to you. As mentioned before, I once witnessed a customer ask a dealer if he could disassemble a 1911 and inspect the parts, dealer allowed it and personally I wouldn't even ask. .. Be Safe !!!
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November 13, 2020, 02:50 PM | #35 | |
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Maybe the dealer knew the guy or maybe he didn't care or maybe it was just a salesperson that didn't care but it's VERY easy to get an idiot scratch on a 1911 during reassembly (don't ask me how I know). 1911 Idiot Scratch https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...AT4_4DzRaSJqLM I always put on a show of looking down the barrel but a friend that was with me one time said dryly, "Guess the hole goes all the way thru, huh?" and it occurred to me that's pretty much all I was doing. I still do it though and I DO look for irregularities in the rifling, gouge marks on the crown and maybe roughness in the chamber or bore...but a dirty bore doesn't bother me and I once bought a shotgun with a ding in the outside of the barrel that could be seen on the inside of the barrel too...and the shotgun shot as well as any other I've shot and I still have it to this day. (The ding...picture somebody slamming a car door and catching the barrel. Not horrible, but noticeable.) |
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November 13, 2020, 03:07 PM | #36 | |
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Degree of trust ??? !!
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November 15, 2020, 07:12 AM | #37 |
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Of course you check the inside of the barrel. I’ve had a couple of occasions that I neglected to do this and the bores had terrible chatter marks. Both of these were Taurus products, one a snub nose revolver, and the other a small semiauto. Can’t say it affected accuracy or reliability since both guns were reliable and fairly accurate as far as group size. It was where that group always landed in relation to where I was aiming that caused me to get rid of them. I don’t attribute this to the condition of the barrel, but to the way they fit my hand and trigger position. For me some guns work and I keep them, and some don’t and I get rid of them.
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