629 vs redhawk - Page 4

Nanuk · August 25, 2019, 08:29 AM

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It's fact, not opinion but I see that some folks refuse to be swayed by facts. I'll obligate YOU to look up articles by John Taffin and Brian Pearce about loading the Redhawk to 50,000psi.

No, that is opinion. H.P. White laboratories tested Ruger and S&W revolvers. They both failed at the same pressure which was approximately 2X SAAMI pressures.

Cast is NOT stronger than forged. Ruger only loads are done sometimes because the Ruger cylinder is LONGER and can accommodate a LONGER bullet.

With Ruger Super Blackhawks if you are running nuclear level loads you need to install a locking base pin.

When the Border Patrol still issued revolvers in the 1980's we had S&W 19's from the 1960"s and our current production 686's and late in 1988 the Patrol started buying Ruger GP100's. There were 10 Ruger's go out of service for every 1 Smith. I was an armorer so I saw it.

pete2 · August 25, 2019, 09:29 AM

I've owned 2 Redhawks, if I ever buy another .44 it's be a S&W. Rugers are too large and too heavy tho I liked them at the time. I have seen Ruger only loads for the .45 Colt, didn't see any at the time for the .44 Mag. The Redhawk/Super Redhawks are built heavy but just between you and me a .44 Mag. loaded with 300 gr bullets is still a hand full especially in a 5-1/2" Redhawk. I went back to 245 gr bullets. Just tween us chickens, I've never seen a worn out S&W or Ruger .44.

dontcatchmany · August 26, 2019, 08:58 AM

I have the 629 4".

From what I have experienced I get worn out shooting 44 Magnum loads way before the gun will ever have a problem. I mostly shoot 44 Special out of it because I am an old man and shoot my other revolvers 10 to 1 over the 629.

I mostly pull out the 44 Magnums when I start mentally complaining about recoil in snub nosed 357 Magnum revolvers. I relearn lessons as to what recoil is when I do that....lol!

pete2 · August 26, 2019, 10:38 AM

The only revolver I've owned that was worn out was a Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk.
It was also the most accurate hand gun I've ever owned. What wore out was the ejector rod spring, it got weak and was hitting the cylinder on the edge of the chambers, ruined all sic holes. No more accuracy, I stoned off the burrs but still no accuracy. Sent it to Ruger, said it met their specs.

Ruger45LC · August 27, 2019, 11:08 AM

Typically I'm a Ruger guy, although I don't really have an issue with S&W, I do own one. My biggest gripe about the Redhawk is the trigger system, it's just not good. The trigger can be made better, but for the subpar trigger alone, I would opt for the S&W, or just go with a Super Redhawk. Hopefully Ruger decides to offer more caliber options on their new "Super GP100", which seems to mate the GP100 frame to a Redhawk upper, which is a great idea, let's just hope we start seeing .44 Mag and .45 Colt Super GP100's.

BillSussman · August 27, 2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger45LC

Typically I'm a Ruger guy, although I don't really have an issue with S&W, I do own one. My biggest gripe about the Redhawk is the trigger system, it's just not good. The trigger can be made better, but for the subpar trigger alone, I would opt for the S&W, or just go with a Super Redhawk. Hopefully Ruger decides to offer more caliber options on their new "Super GP100", which seems to mate the GP100 frame to a Redhawk upper, which is a great idea, let's just hope we start seeing .44 Mag and .45 Colt Super GP100's.

I agree. The Super GP100 would be great in other calibers, I just have no interest in an 8 shot 357. I like my 6 shooters to be 6 shooters.

**JohnKSa** · August 27, 2019, 05:14 PM

Some cleanup work has been done on this thread.

For those who want to talk about 629s and Redhawks, this is a good place to do so. If you want to talk about reviving old threads, we don't have a place for that on TFL.

BillSussman · August 28, 2019, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnKSa

Some cleanup work has been done on this thread.

For those who want to talk about 629s and Redhawks, this is a good place to do so. If you want to talk about reviving old threads, we don't have a place for that on TFL.

Much appreciated!

vba · September 3, 2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AID_Admin

How much heavier Ruger compare to S&W?

Well I know that the Ruger GP-100 and S&W L-Frame 6 shots weigh the same with the same length barrel. This is something I noted years ago when S&W ran those silly ads comparing the L-Frame to the GP-100.

You know, the Ruger was compared to a piece of steak where thickness is supposed to count.

shurshot · September 4, 2019, 11:28 AM

I'll put my SW 29-10 4" .44 up against a Redhawk pertaining to durabilty, any day of the week. I love Ruger, but S&W has slowly developed the model 29 into a pretty solid design over the years.

Dufus · September 4, 2019, 02:35 PM

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I love Ruger, but S&W has slowly developed the model 29 into a pretty solid design over the years.

S&W had to do something to them. All of them made in the Dirty Harry days were falling apart.

Hell, even my Ruger SBH was shooting loose until I remedied it too.

**44 AMP** · September 4, 2019, 05:02 PM

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S&W had to do something to them. All of them made in the Dirty Harry days were falling apart.

Mine didn't.

Are you surprised when you put 100,000 miles a year (most of them at 100mph) on your car year after year, and your tires and engine don't last 40 years??

1MoreFord · September 4, 2019, 08:32 PM

Don't limit yourself. Find a good Dan Wesson.

dogdoc · September 4, 2019, 08:51 PM

Smith 29s since the the early 1990s have an endurance package and are very durable . I shoot a lot of 44 magnums in my 629s and they hold up nicely. I also shoot a lot of midrange loads for the benefit of my hands! My older 29s get more midrange loads but I still shoot some full house stuff in them as well. The new 29s have better actions than ruger and are just more refined.

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August 27, 2019, 05:14 PM	#82
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,992	Some cleanup work has been done on this thread. For those who want to talk about 629s and Redhawks, this is a good place to do so. If you want to talk about reviving old threads, we don't have a place for that on TFL. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

August 25, 2019, 09:29 AM	#77
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	I've owned 2 Redhawks, if I ever buy another .44 it's be a S&W. Rugers are too large and too heavy tho I liked them at the time. I have seen Ruger only loads for the .45 Colt, didn't see any at the time for the .44 Mag. The Redhawk/Super Redhawks are built heavy but just between you and me a .44 Mag. loaded with 300 gr bullets is still a hand full especially in a 5-1/2" Redhawk. I went back to 245 gr bullets. Just tween us chickens, I've never seen a worn out S&W or Ruger .44.

August 26, 2019, 08:58 AM	#78
dontcatchmany Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2010 Posts: 460	I have the 629 4". From what I have experienced I get worn out shooting 44 Magnum loads way before the gun will ever have a problem. I mostly shoot 44 Special out of it because I am an old man and shoot my other revolvers 10 to 1 over the 629. I mostly pull out the 44 Magnums when I start mentally complaining about recoil in snub nosed 357 Magnum revolvers. I relearn lessons as to what recoil is when I do that....lol!

August 26, 2019, 10:38 AM	#79
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	The only revolver I've owned that was worn out was a Ruger New Model Super Blackhawk. It was also the most accurate hand gun I've ever owned. What wore out was the ejector rod spring, it got weak and was hitting the cylinder on the edge of the chambers, ruined all sic holes. No more accuracy, I stoned off the burrs but still no accuracy. Sent it to Ruger, said it met their specs.

August 27, 2019, 11:08 AM	#80
Ruger45LC Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 768	Typically I'm a Ruger guy, although I don't really have an issue with S&W, I do own one. My biggest gripe about the Redhawk is the trigger system, it's just not good. The trigger can be made better, but for the subpar trigger alone, I would opt for the S&W, or just go with a Super Redhawk. Hopefully Ruger decides to offer more caliber options on their new "Super GP100", which seems to mate the GP100 frame to a Redhawk upper, which is a great idea, let's just hope we start seeing .44 Mag and .45 Colt Super GP100's.

September 4, 2019, 11:28 AM	#85
shurshot Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2006 Posts: 1,819	I'll put my SW 29-10 4" .44 up against a Redhawk pertaining to durabilty, any day of the week. I love Ruger, but S&W has slowly developed the model 29 into a pretty solid design over the years.

September 4, 2019, 08:32 PM	#88
1MoreFord Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2014 Location: Arkansas Posts: 244	Don't limit yourself. Find a good Dan Wesson.

September 4, 2019, 08:51 PM	#89
dogdoc Junior Member Join Date: May 24, 2004 Posts: 14	Smith 29s since the the early 1990s have an endurance package and are very durable . I shoot a lot of 44 magnums in my 629s and they hold up nicely. I also shoot a lot of midrange loads for the benefit of my hands! My older 29s get more midrange loads but I still shoot some full house stuff in them as well. The new 29s have better actions than ruger and are just more refined. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk