Media prevarication: Sandy Hook father heckled at firearms hearing

jimpeel · January 30, 2013, 03:24 PM

The media is saying that this father of one of the victims of Sandy hook was "heckled" during his testimony.

Fox News has the full clip of the video where the man actually calls for an answer from those in attendance and then decries the lack of a response from them. It is at that point that those in attendance started stating reasons that they need the type of firearms which he had inquired about.

see the clip HERE

While this man deserves respect the audience was not disrespectful in the least.

UtahHunting · January 30, 2013, 03:52 PM

I listened to the full tape and the edited version. I am not sure what is going on with NBC and the other news outlets lately. They are editing stories to get their agenda across and there is no accountability. NBC should be ashamed of themselves. They have done this with several stories the past few months and of course the public buys into it.

BarryLee · January 30, 2013, 04:13 PM

I agree the story appears to be misrepresented, but generally in those types of forums the audience is not supposed to respond to the speakers. I know he asked “anyone in the room”, but he was asking a rhetorical question and not really looking for a response.

As for the media misrepresenting something – surprise! We need to be careful how we conduct this debate and how we represent ourselves. If not we just may inadvertently give the anti-gun crowd the image or sound bite they need.

Skadoosh · January 30, 2013, 04:17 PM

Quote:

I know he asked “anyone in the room”, but he was asking a rhetorical question and not really looking for a response.

...except that he turned to the audience and invited a response. Rhetorical or not, he got what he asked for.

wogpotter · January 30, 2013, 04:25 PM

As the names of the main Communist newspaper and the main Soviet newspaper, Pravda and Izvestia, meant "the truth" and "the news" respectively, a popular Russian saying was "v Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy" (In the Truth there is no news, and in the News there is no truth).
Funny how times change isn't it?

Metal god · January 30, 2013, 04:31 PM

Yes you are correct in the rhetorical question and if he had left it at that , no body should say anything . After asking the rhetorical question he then said see nobody can answer that question . When he used the follow up statement he in effect was no longer asking a rhetorical question and IMO challenging the audience and thats what got the response .

Slamfire · January 30, 2013, 04:57 PM

What matters with successful propaganda is not the truth, but the impression that is left behind. Obviously those gun banners in the media understood that the editing job they created was not only wrong, misleading, but an out and out lie. But hundreds of millions saw it, believe that nasty, rude, gun owners are badgering grieving parents, and that impression is the one they will carry to the voting booth.

Gun banners in the media are going to continue to demonize gun owners with lies till your firearms are confiscated.

What did you expect, honesty?

Mr.Scott · January 30, 2013, 05:00 PM

You are surprised that the main stream media lies?
The media for the most part is an arm of the demoncrat party. They show time and time again that they don't report the news they fabricate the news.
Hell, how many times do we see reporters acting like the storm is about to blow them away, only to have a bunch of kids come jumping through the shot?
Our nation is going down hill very quickly and it is because of the media pushing an agenda.

Jayster · January 30, 2013, 05:27 PM

As said that is what our current media, with obviously the exception of Fox, does.

I feel for the guy. I can't imagine his pain but his blame is misplaced as we here well know.

Too bad someone didn't say, "Someone should have been there to guard your son's school with one of those weapons. That would have been one excellent use, just ask President Obama how secure he feels knowing his children have armed guards at their school."

lcpiper · January 30, 2013, 06:47 PM

Only one way to hurt the media, do what I do. Cancel your network accounts. The closest I come to giving them any money is checking articles/events on-line.

They get a hit, but not a dime.

FoghornLeghorn · January 30, 2013, 06:55 PM

Quote:

I am not sure what is going on with NBC and the other news outlets lately

Seriously? The lamestream media have been lying to and manipulating the American public for decades. They're absolutely shameless about it.

Positively the most corrupt and hypocritrical game in town.

Joe_Pike · January 30, 2013, 08:17 PM

NBC is being sued by George Zimmerman for this exact stunt while "reporting" on the shooting he was involved in. I know they hve deep pockests, but I hope he reaches in and takes a big handful.

January 30, 2013, 03:24 PM	#1
jimpeel Senior Member Join Date: October 11, 1999 Location: Longmont, CO, USA Posts: 4,530	Media prevarication: Sandy Hook father heckled at firearms hearing The media is saying that this father of one of the victims of Sandy hook was "heckled" during his testimony. Fox News has the full clip of the video where the man actually calls for an answer from those in attendance and then decries the lack of a response from them. It is at that point that those in attendance started stating reasons that they need the type of firearms which he had inquired about. see the clip HERE While this man deserves respect the audience was not disrespectful in the least. __________________ Gun Control: The premise that a woman found in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is morally superior to allowing that same woman to defend her life with a firearm. "Science is built up with facts, as a house is with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house." - Jules Henri Poincare "Three thousand people died on Sept. 11 because eight pilots were killed" -- former Northwest Airlines pilot Stephen Luckey

January 30, 2013, 04:13 PM	#3
BarryLee Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2010 Location: The ATL (OTP) Posts: 3,946	I agree the story appears to be misrepresented, but generally in those types of forums the audience is not supposed to respond to the speakers. I know he asked “anyone in the room”, but he was asking a rhetorical question and not really looking for a response. As for the media misrepresenting something – surprise! We need to be careful how we conduct this debate and how we represent ourselves. If not we just may inadvertently give the anti-gun crowd the image or sound bite they need. __________________ A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

January 30, 2013, 04:25 PM	#5
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	As the names of the main Communist newspaper and the main Soviet newspaper, Pravda and Izvestia, meant "the truth" and "the news" respectively, a popular Russian saying was "v Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy" (In the Truth there is no news, and in the News there is no truth). Funny how times change isn't it? __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

January 30, 2013, 04:31 PM	#6
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 6,874	Yes you are correct in the rhetorical question and if he had left it at that , no body should say anything . After asking the rhetorical question he then said see nobody can answer that question . When he used the follow up statement he in effect was no longer asking a rhetorical question and IMO challenging the audience and thats what got the response . __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again .

January 30, 2013, 04:57 PM	#7
Slamfire Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2007 Posts: 5,261	What matters with successful propaganda is not the truth, but the impression that is left behind. Obviously those gun banners in the media understood that the editing job they created was not only wrong, misleading, but an out and out lie. But hundreds of millions saw it, believe that nasty, rude, gun owners are badgering grieving parents, and that impression is the one they will carry to the voting booth. Gun banners in the media are going to continue to demonize gun owners with lies till your firearms are confiscated. What did you expect, honesty? __________________ If I'm not shooting, I'm reloading.

January 30, 2013, 03:52 PM	#2
UtahHunting Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2009 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 428	I listened to the full tape and the edited version. I am not sure what is going on with NBC and the other news outlets lately. They are editing stories to get their agenda across and there is no accountability. NBC should be ashamed of themselves. They have done this with several stories the past few months and of course the public buys into it.

January 30, 2013, 05:00 PM	#8
Mr.Scott Member Join Date: March 9, 2011 Posts: 55	You are surprised that the main stream media lies? The media for the most part is an arm of the demoncrat party. They show time and time again that they don't report the news they fabricate the news. Hell, how many times do we see reporters acting like the storm is about to blow them away, only to have a bunch of kids come jumping through the shot? Our nation is going down hill very quickly and it is because of the media pushing an agenda.

January 30, 2013, 05:27 PM	#9
Jayster Member Join Date: January 7, 2013 Posts: 74	As said that is what our current media, with obviously the exception of Fox, does. I feel for the guy. I can't imagine his pain but his blame is misplaced as we here well know. Too bad someone didn't say, "Someone should have been there to guard your son's school with one of those weapons. That would have been one excellent use, just ask President Obama how secure he feels knowing his children have armed guards at their school."

January 30, 2013, 06:47 PM	#10
lcpiper Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2011 Posts: 1,405	Only one way to hurt the media, do what I do. Cancel your network accounts. The closest I come to giving them any money is checking articles/events on-line. They get a hit, but not a dime. __________________ Colt M1911, AR-15 \| S&W Model 19, Model 27\| SIG P238 \| Berreta 85B Cheetah \| Ruger Blackhawk .357MAG, Bearcat "Shopkeeper" .22LR\| Remington Marine Magnum SP 12GA., Model 700 SPS .223

January 30, 2013, 08:17 PM	#12
Joe_Pike Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2010 Posts: 1,581	NBC is being sued by George Zimmerman for this exact stunt while "reporting" on the shooting he was involved in. I know they hve deep pockests, but I hope he reaches in and takes a big handful. __________________ Stay Groovy

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