Shipping powder? Which carrier, regulations

golfnutrlv · June 8, 2011, 09:40 PM

Hi all, have a guy on another forum who wants me to ship a bottle of powder to him.

I know that powder is subject to a $25 hazmat fee, and ORM-d etc.

What carriers can i use, do I need a properly marked box, etc or just not worry about it?

Thanks,

zxcvbob · June 8, 2011, 10:07 PM

Powder is not ORMD. (loaded ammo and some toxic household chemicals are ORMD)

lll Otto lll · June 8, 2011, 10:19 PM

You have to become HazMat certified which requires training and testing. Training is provided by the hazmat employer or other public or private sources. Every 3 years, you have to do it all over again and it cost several hundred dollars.

http://www.natlenvtrainers.com/moreinfo/DOT.htm

Shootest · June 9, 2011, 09:14 AM

Contact FED-EX Customer service 800-463-3339 they will let you know what is required.

**Mike Irwin** · June 9, 2011, 09:15 AM

I hope that it's a powder that's difficult to find - it's really cost prohibitive for such a small amount.

zxcvbob · June 9, 2011, 10:05 AM

Package it into shotgun shells and it becomes ORM-D. Recipient can cut them open to get the powder. (just thinking outside the box here)

medalguy · June 10, 2011, 11:13 PM

Legally, a private citizen cannot ship anything hazardous (meaning powder or primers). In order to ship hazmat you have to have specialized training and be certified in that training, and be registered and certified by the carrier. That's really not practical for anyone other than a volume business customer. So, short answer is, you cannot legally ship powder or primers.

Oh yeah, just in case you are thinking of doing that anyway, don't. The penalty is federal prosecution by DHS and I don't think you want to go that route.

Fullthrottle · June 10, 2011, 11:17 PM

Not worth the cost for small amounts!

ORM-D is for loaded ammo and other chemicals not powder.

A_Gamehog · June 11, 2011, 06:28 PM

If you do decide to ship powder and get caught, the Government lumps you into the "Uni-Bomber" class...no questions asked...

625cnd · June 12, 2011, 07:45 PM

If you do not have Haz Mat Contract with Speedy, FedEx, or UPS and the required CFR 49 training cert, you can not ship powder period. And, to get caught well....best not. Hell, the Haz Mat charge costs as much as #1 of powder this is no win situation.

June 8, 2011, 10:07 PM	#2
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Location: S.E. Minnesota Posts: 4,720	Powder is not ORMD. (loaded ammo and some toxic household chemicals are ORMD) __________________ "Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire!" —Lucille Bluth

June 8, 2011, 10:19 PM	#3
lll Otto lll Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2008 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 295	You have to become HazMat certified which requires training and testing. Training is provided by the hazmat employer or other public or private sources. Every 3 years, you have to do it all over again and it cost several hundred dollars. http://www.natlenvtrainers.com/moreinfo/DOT.htm Last edited by lll Otto lll; June 9, 2011 at 05:19 PM.

June 9, 2011, 09:14 AM	#4
Shootest Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2011 Location: Just outside Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 722	Contact FED-EX Customer service 800-463-3339 they will let you know what is required. __________________ The private ownership of firearms is an American Heritage. Anyone who disputes that is Anti-American and unpatriotic. NRA Life Member

June 9, 2011, 09:15 AM	#5
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	I hope that it's a powder that's difficult to find - it's really cost prohibitive for such a small amount. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

June 9, 2011, 10:05 AM	#6
zxcvbob Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2007 Location: S.E. Minnesota Posts: 4,720	Package it into shotgun shells and it becomes ORM-D. Recipient can cut them open to get the powder. (just thinking outside the box here) __________________ "Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire!" —Lucille Bluth

June 8, 2011, 09:40 PM	#1
golfnutrlv Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,347	Shipping powder? Which carrier, regulations Hi all, have a guy on another forum who wants me to ship a bottle of powder to him. I know that powder is subject to a $25 hazmat fee, and ORM-d etc. What carriers can i use, do I need a properly marked box, etc or just not worry about it? Thanks, __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ VIGILIA PRETIUM LIBERTATIS "The price of liberty is vigilance" America is at an awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.

June 10, 2011, 11:13 PM	#7
medalguy Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,033	Legally, a private citizen cannot ship anything hazardous (meaning powder or primers). In order to ship hazmat you have to have specialized training and be certified in that training, and be registered and certified by the carrier. That's really not practical for anyone other than a volume business customer. So, short answer is, you cannot legally ship powder or primers. Oh yeah, just in case you are thinking of doing that anyway, don't. The penalty is federal prosecution by DHS and I don't think you want to go that route.

June 10, 2011, 11:17 PM	#8
Fullthrottle Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2009 Posts: 280	Not worth the cost for small amounts! ORM-D is for loaded ammo and other chemicals not powder. __________________ When seconds count, why is help minutes away?

June 11, 2011, 06:28 PM	#9
A_Gamehog Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2009 Location: Central Oregun Posts: 563	If you do decide to ship powder and get caught, the Government lumps you into the "Uni-Bomber" class...no questions asked... __________________ "Happiness is knowing the Barred Owl is Eating the Spotted Owl and environmentalists are watching Nature take it's course"

June 12, 2011, 07:45 PM	#10
625cnd Member Join Date: June 9, 2011 Posts: 33	If you do not have Haz Mat Contract with Speedy, FedEx, or UPS and the required CFR 49 training cert, you can not ship powder period. And, to get caught well....best not. Hell, the Haz Mat charge costs as much as #1 of powder this is no win situation.