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Old Yesterday, 05:17 PM   #76
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Peeing on the action is something we were told to try, in an emergency, if it was stuck shut due to the cold.
If you ever had to do this, would you have to clean it afterwards from the acids in urine? Just wondering. . .

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Old Yesterday, 07:19 PM   #77
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You better not be caught pi$$in' on my gun.
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Old Yesterday, 07:57 PM   #78
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Really?

Huh, :
My bolt is not sticky at all,
My trigger is not at all heavy,
It's not too heavy,
I never use the safety on my Mosin,
It's PRETTY accurate!
That's nice for you.

However, your question was, "Is the Mosin (91/30) a good survival rifle???" Which suggests M-Ns in general, not your particular rifle. If you want to talk about your particular rifle, for any of us to have anything to talk about, you'd have to let each of us spend time with it.

Otherwise, with my admittedly limited experience with M-Ns (only handled about a dozen of them), plus everything I've ever read about them, plus the experiences as related to me by friends concerning their M-Ns, I'm confident my assessment is fairly accurate.

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Old Yesterday, 08:01 PM   #79
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This is like the motorcycle joke.

Back in January, on a bitterly cold winter’s day in North Dakota, a State Trooper out on patrol came upon a motorcyclist who was stalled by the roadside. The biker was swathed in heavy protective clothing and wearing a full-face helmet to protect the face from the cold weather.

“What’s the matter? asked the Trooper. “Carburetor’s frozen,” was the terse reply. “Pee on it. That’ll thaw it out.” “I can’t,” said the biker.

“OK, watch me closely and I’ll show you.” The Trooper unzipped and promptly warmed the carburetor as promised. Moments later the bike started and the rider drove off, waving.

A few days later, the local State Troopers’ office received a note of thanks from the father of the motorcyclist. It began: “On behalf of my daughter Jill, I’d like to thank Officer…”
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Old Yesterday, 10:14 PM   #80
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beats a sharp stick

I remember seeing photos of folks guarding their, homes, property and people with .22 rifles after one of the west coast quakes. I have also read accounts of folks who "escaped" New Orleans with an AK clone.

Point is that just about any rifle and ample ammo gives you an up on mob type activity, at least for a bit. The Mosins came through Stalingrad, Lenningrad, etc and would be better than nothing. Not my first choice, but certainly could be pressed into effective service.
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Old Yesterday, 10:50 PM   #81
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I'm confident my assessment is fairly accurate.
With most of the MNs I've seen, your assessment is correct.

Probably due to the large amounts of wartime MNs that flooded into the US, usually made with little to no care for quality: as long as it shot, it worked for them (these mostly had round receivers because they were easier to make than ones with hex receivers which is why prewar hex MNs were usually considered higher quality than wartime ones). Luckily I got a prewar one with a hex receiver.

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Old Today, 12:08 AM   #82
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Based on your posts, I'm gonna say that in two or three years, you'll be getting into ARs. That is if they are allowed where you are.
Most try a little of this and a little of that. Then they move on to the budget AR. Tinkering with an AR, the realization sets in that with ARs, you can create one that can do whatever you want a rifle to do, pretty much.

Then everyone thinks, "hmmmm, I could get a spare upper and have a two-fer-one."

Then it is decided the spare upper needs it's own lower. Two complete rifles now are candidates for spare uppers... next thing you know there's ARs everywhere.
You can even make a straight pull bolt gun out of one if you wanna, sort of.

But I don't mean to assume that you are interested in an AR, I can't read minds, I'm using it as a metaphor.
My advice is: when you decide what you want, get the gun that you want; get it even if it means saving money for a bit longer. Don't settle for less, it's most always disappointing.
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Old Today, 02:23 AM   #83
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In a dozen or so Mosins I've had here, only one had a bolt sticky enough to require malleting open after firing.

Sticky bolts are well known, but not inevitable in all Mosins.
Most are due to cosmoline inside the bolt or chamber.
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Old Today, 01:40 PM   #84
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Based on your posts, I'm gonna say that in two or three years, you'll be getting into ARs. That is if they are allowed where you are.
Most try a little of this and a little of that. Then they move on to the budget AR. Tinkering with an AR, the realization sets in that with ARs, you can create one that can do whatever you want a rifle to do, pretty much.
This is from the OPs other thread that is now shut down.

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I already have an Ar-15, a .22 LR, a G17, and a Mossberg 500 (and of course, the mosin 91/30). Also, how good do you guys think an Ishapore 2A1 would be in .308 for this type of situation.
So he already has an AR. I have an AR and its not my "go to" rifle for anything. Maybe the OP is like me and just likes bolt guns better. I like my AR but I like my Mini-14 about 10 times better. But my AR is not for sale either.
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Old Today, 02:06 PM   #85
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Thanks for pointing that out. I've forgotten which thread was which.


Mini14 is my favorite. I have several ARs now, but none will replace my mini14.
I rarely suggest a mini14 anymore, because it gets slapped down quicker than a trump hat.
I cant hardly close my gun safe anymore, but if I had to choose and keep just one rifle for the rest of my life, it'd be the mini14.

So back to the topic, if I was to use the M-N for sustenance hunting, it'd work. (Maybe not rabbits and squirrels)
As far as a defensive scenario, I would say no. But it's better than nothing. I liked my M-N rifle, but it never made the grade as a "go-to" rifle and it was a good specimen.
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Old Today, 04:38 PM   #86
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Maybe the OP is like me and just likes bolt guns better.
That is true!
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Old Today, 05:13 PM   #87
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Thanks for pointing that out. I've forgotten which thread was which.
Yeah, confusing ain't it?

Mosin I like bolt guns. At least they don't throw my brass all over Hell and half of Georgia. And I like to keep my brass.
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Old Today, 05:42 PM   #88
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I don't know why, but ratshooter's post made me think of this. The reason a lot of ranges don't allow steel shelled ammo is because they only want you shooting brass so they can reload them and sell them. It's kind of off-topic, but it just came into my head.
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Old Today, 07:06 PM   #89
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I own a Mosin but haven't shot it in a long time. It's heavy and unwieldy, the bolt is sticky, the trigger sucks, the sights suck (aftermarket sights help), ammo isn't as cheap as it used to be.

It wouldn't be my first pick for somebody seriously looking for a rifle to depend on, but at the price point, it will do its job reasonably well and dependably.
First response said it best. Took the words right out of my mouth. There are SO MANY better options.
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Old Today, 07:12 PM   #90
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Ranges don't want the steel core bullets because it will damage their facilities and potential sparks could cause a fire, dry grass and all. I don't think it's the cases, but they are taking the caution side of things because com-bloc ammunition tends to have steel cores and other unknowns. Some look at it, some check with magnets.

I got rejected once because they said some of my 55gr 223 ammunition "looked like" Lake City cases.
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Old Today, 07:51 PM   #91
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The Nagant is a fabulous rifle for the task. Tough, incredible reliability to survive the harshest of situations, accurate, EXTREMELY powerful and able to defeat body armor, shells are cheap if you know where to look. Fast reload with strippers. Those that talk down Nagants probably have never owned them. Keep in mind they won 2 world wars. Fantastic survival battle rifle bolties.
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Old Today, 08:22 PM   #92
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All this Mosin talk made me have to take a picture. Here is mine ready for WW3:

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Old Today, 08:40 PM   #93
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As I've said Mosin quality is all over the map. My 91/30 has a worn barrel.... My 38 has a counter sunk bore. They are both truck axels compared to my Swede's. Quality, fit, finish, accuracy they are apples and pineapples.

That said.. they both work. Would they be my first choice? NOT! But if they were my only choice they will do. They are my "I don't care" guns.

If the fecal matter hit the circular rotating air recirculation device I can make due with them.
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Old Today, 08:43 PM   #94
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Model12WinAll this Mosin talk made me have to take a picture. Here is mine ready for WW3:
That is what you hand your good friend who comes begging when it hits the fan. He is the peasant conscript that you just did a favor for.
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Old Today, 08:44 PM   #95
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The Spetsnaz shovel is better for CQB than the Moisin. That and the Tok are much better for close in and personal.
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