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October 17, 2020, 01:56 PM | #1 |
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Best pistol for childrens church security
I want to maximize:
1. SAFETY, no light triggers, I'm looking for DOA OR DA/SA 2. CALIBER THAT IS ACCURATE AND WONT OVERPENETRATE, a caliber with low recoil for accuracy and penetration that is "just" good enough while avoiding overpenetration. 3.MAXIMIZING CONCEALABILITY WHILE STILL HAVING A FULL GRIP, I dont want to scare away parents because I printed too much but I want a full grip for maximized accuracy, so no pocket pistols where the pinky hangs off and the sights are terrible these are the most important factors for me and I would appreciate some input. I'm leaning towards something like a kahr ct380 and ppks and other similar pistols. Sensitive subject here I know and I would like some input please. I like the kahr but would like something with second strike, hence the ppks consideration. Last edited by CAPMJUSTICE; October 17, 2020 at 02:09 PM. |
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Walther PP in .380
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Ruger LCR (revolver) in .38 Special. Use light bullets (125 grain HP's) or soft wadcutters if you are concerned about over-penetration.
An almost full sized pistol I like is the CZ-82 in 9mm Mak, although I can't remember offhand how the safety works. The CZ-83 is basically the same gun and is available in several chamberings including .380 Get whatever you shoot well in a not-too-powerful cartridge, and get a good holster for it. Everything else should fall into place
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Its all about your additude and how you dress.
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To ME, a natural pointer, decocker/safety, thin, all steel so good recoil mitigation.
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S&W Shield9 2.0 (1.0 would be just fine as well, but might need to install an Apex trigger).
It's what I usually carry to church. Or my Ruger 1911 CMD in 9mm. Just as easy to conceal, 2 more rounds, and a lot more accurate past 10 yards. |
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Well, just want to say that the Kahr has a trigger pull in weight and manual of arms very similar to that of the Glock or any other striker-fired pistol.
Would you consider a striker fired pistol? Given what you've mentioned, I'd say Sig Sauer P239 in 9mm would be a good bet. A P228 or P229 is thicker but would also be very good. HK P30 or P30SK. I'd mention Glock 19, 26, 48, 43x as well if you're willing to reconsider a striker-fired option. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk |
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The holster makes a difference in concealment and printing too. I can hide a full size 1911 in the right holster. In an Uncle Mike's thick padded nylon holster I looked like I had 2 guns on my hip. Look into Safariland and Galco to start. Some other good ones are out there. Perhaps a few more will be mentioned soon.
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That being said, I would recommend the PPK/S over the PP, simply because the PPK/S is still in production so you can get a new one and won't have to worry about messing up a vintage PP or risk it end up rusting in an evidence locker and having some case number etched into the slide. The PPK/S essentially just a PP with the slide/frame of the PPK, so you have the exact same grip as the PP, but it's lighter in weight overall. Also, the new models have been upgraded with an improved feed ramp which makes JHPs feed more reliably, as well as an extended beavertail which prevents slide bite.
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My vote would be for a CZ-75 Compact.
S&W Shield would be on the list on possible contenders for the runner-up slot.
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The first would be a Glock 19 or other medium sized 9x19 pistol.
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I have a Sig Sauer P230 in 380 and like it a lot . It is my winter carry gun very accurate and ease to just put in a pocket .
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Springfield XDe 3.3 9mm DA/SA with thumb safety decocker 8+1
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A good friend of mine is the de facto head of the security team at his church. The pastor has given him an impossible assignment: make the church safe, but we don't want armed security. Yeah, they really do think that way.
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Have you considered a shoulder rig or undercover undershirt holster? I often carry a Sig229 in the undercover undershirt holder (see pic below), and a shoulder rig will alloy you to carry a more substantial and likely more accurate gun, such as a Glock 19, full size M&P, etc.
https://op2.0ps.us/200-200-ffffff/op...overnor-02.jpg https://www.511tactical.com/media/ca...=400&width=400
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I can't recommend a PP, terrible DA and not as reliable as others.
A Sig P230, P232, or CZ 82 if you just must .380. Better a 9mm with light fast JHP. My P225 is pretty flat and a P239 is somewhat modernized. Compact CZs shoot well if you will dress to cover the thicker butt. |
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