1911 ambi safety question

**Aguila Blanca** · May 12, 2016, 12:09 PM

For years, Brownells carried a Mueschke-type ambi safety with the paddles in the current "teardrop" style as seen on Colt 1991 pistols (and many others). Not extended safeties. Naturally, now that I've decided it's time to buy a couple -- they are discontinued by the manufacturer. Brownells doesn't list them on their web site, and can't get them.

Does anyone know of another source for an ambi safety with a standard, teardrop design?

g.willikers · May 12, 2016, 02:20 PM

The Mueschke safety for those who didn't know to what was being referred.
http://www.google.com/patents/US4414769

HiBC · May 12, 2016, 02:38 PM

I have never used the one you are talking about.IIRC,they did not receive good reviews for some reason.I think I was interested because they use the extended,grooved hammer pin rather than the grips to retain the off side,yes?

Just this A.M. I installed a Kimber ambi safety.It uses the extended,grooved hammer pin.
It is of an extended style,but not in the extreme.
I may trim about 3/8 in off the paddle ends and slim them a bit.

**Aguila Blanca** · May 12, 2016, 03:01 PM

g.willikers -- yes, that's the one I'm looking for, and the one shown in the drawings is the one with the "teardrop" paddles (they also had an extended version). I've looked through all the offerings from Brownells, and there's nothing else that's even close. I may have to do as HiBC suggests: buy some kind of extended ambi safety and grind off the extensions into a semblance of the teardrop shape.

RickB · May 12, 2016, 04:22 PM

Not many safeties extend rearward, at all.
The old King's ambi did, and the Novak does, as does Caspian's. You still won't get anything like a mirror image, if that's important.

**4V50 Gary** · May 13, 2016, 08:24 PM

I like the Mueschke because of the set up with the interlocking pin to hold the left side.

Brownell's on-line catalog is hard for me to navigate, but if they didn't have it, wouldn't Midway?

**Aguila Blanca** · May 14, 2016, 12:22 PM

Nobody has it. I checked with Brownells -- they said the manufacturer has discontinued it.

Color me sad. Should have bought a couple years ago, when I first saw them. "He who hesitates is lost."

Hunter Customs · May 14, 2016, 10:46 PM

Quote:

I checked with Brownells -- they said the manufacturer has discontinued it.

Welcome to the world of after market 1911 parts.
Thru the years I would hate to guess how many good quality after market parts have been discontinued.

STI triggers for the Para double stack guns is a good example, I could have sold a 1000 of them if I would have been smart enough to buy them.
At one time I had a 100 in stock and thought I had plenty.
I did not know STI was going to discontinue them, sold all I had and still get e-mails and calls for them on a regular basis.

I could name many other parts that I liked working with and are now a thing of the past.
I have young fellas call me wanting advice on starting in the business of building custom 1911 pistols.
One of the things I always tell them is if you are not going to have your own parts manufactured, then when you find parts you like working with you better buy a lifetime supply before they get discontinued.

Best Regards
Bob Hunter

**Aguila Blanca** · May 15, 2016, 09:21 AM

Oh, oh.

Off to Brownells web site to see if they still offer any double stack Para triggers ...

Scorch · May 17, 2016, 12:50 AM

I think I have one in the 1911 parts box. I will check tomorrow and let you know if I do.

Scorch · May 17, 2016, 07:15 PM

I have 3 of them. Blued. Want it? PM me if you do.

Hunter Customs · May 18, 2016, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Off to Brownells web site to see if they still offer any double stack Para triggers ...

Brownell's still carries a couple of after market triggers for Para double stack guns, I've used those still listed but was not impressed.
Of all the double stack triggers I tried I could get the best fit from the STI trigger, fit is a big issue when dialing triggers down to 1.5 pounds.

As for discontinuing things, I've used Accu-Bore bore cleaner for more years the I can remember, always purchased it by the case thru Brownell's, time to re-order some low and behold it's now discontinued.

Best Regards
Bob Hunter

RickB · May 18, 2016, 03:30 PM

I - think - I have a Dlask trigger for Para. I've installed a couple of Dlask triggers in single stacks, and it was a bear. They look cool, and are very light, but not worth the work.
If you want to see for yourself, and I still have the trigger in my parts box, I'll send it to you.

TRX · May 23, 2016, 10:14 PM

I got one of the Meuschke ambis earlier this year and loved it. Then I wanted another and ran into the same problem you did.

Availability of 1911 parts has been spotty the last few months; the closest thing anyone actually had in stock was a Sig 1911 replacement part. It is MIM and made in India, but it looked and fit OK, and will do until I find something like the Meuschke that costs less than $100...

Scorch · May 24, 2016, 03:15 PM

TRX-
I have 2 more. If you want one, PM me.

May 12, 2016, 12:09 PM	#1
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	1911 ambi safety question For years, Brownells carried a Mueschke-type ambi safety with the paddles in the current "teardrop" style as seen on Colt 1991 pistols (and many others). Not extended safeties. Naturally, now that I've decided it's time to buy a couple -- they are discontinued by the manufacturer. Brownells doesn't list them on their web site, and can't get them. Does anyone know of another source for an ambi safety with a standard, teardrop design?

May 12, 2016, 02:20 PM	#2
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	The Mueschke safety for those who didn't know to what was being referred. http://www.google.com/patents/US4414769 __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

May 12, 2016, 04:22 PM	#5
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	Not many safeties extend rearward, at all. The old King's ambi did, and the Novak does, as does Caspian's. You still won't get anything like a mirror image, if that's important. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

May 13, 2016, 08:24 PM	#6
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,832	I like the Mueschke because of the set up with the interlocking pin to hold the left side. Brownell's on-line catalog is hard for me to navigate, but if they didn't have it, wouldn't Midway? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

May 17, 2016, 12:50 AM	#10
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	I think I have one in the 1911 parts box. I will check tomorrow and let you know if I do. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

May 12, 2016, 02:38 PM	#3
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,283	I have never used the one you are talking about.IIRC,they did not receive good reviews for some reason.I think I was interested because they use the extended,grooved hammer pin rather than the grips to retain the off side,yes? Just this A.M. I installed a Kimber ambi safety.It uses the extended,grooved hammer pin. It is of an extended style,but not in the extreme. I may trim about 3/8 in off the paddle ends and slim them a bit.

May 12, 2016, 03:01 PM	#4
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	g.willikers -- yes, that's the one I'm looking for, and the one shown in the drawings is the one with the "teardrop" paddles (they also had an extended version). I've looked through all the offerings from Brownells, and there's nothing else that's even close. I may have to do as HiBC suggests: buy some kind of extended ambi safety and grind off the extensions into a semblance of the teardrop shape.

May 14, 2016, 12:22 PM	#7
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	Nobody has it. I checked with Brownells -- they said the manufacturer has discontinued it. Color me sad. Should have bought a couple years ago, when I first saw them. "He who hesitates is lost."

May 15, 2016, 09:21 AM	#9
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,460	Oh, oh. Off to Brownells web site to see if they still offer any double stack Para triggers ...

May 17, 2016, 07:15 PM	#11
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	I have 3 of them. Blued. Want it? PM me if you do. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

May 18, 2016, 03:30 PM	#13
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	I - think - I have a Dlask trigger for Para. I've installed a couple of Dlask triggers in single stacks, and it was a bear. They look cool, and are very light, but not worth the work. If you want to see for yourself, and I still have the trigger in my parts box, I'll send it to you. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.

May 23, 2016, 10:14 PM	#14
TRX Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2008 Location: central Arkansas Posts: 400	I got one of the Meuschke ambis earlier this year and loved it. Then I wanted another and ran into the same problem you did. Availability of 1911 parts has been spotty the last few months; the closest thing anyone actually had in stock was a Sig 1911 replacement part. It is MIM and made in India, but it looked and fit OK, and will do until I find something like the Meuschke that costs less than $100...

May 24, 2016, 03:15 PM	#15
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	TRX- I have 2 more. If you want one, PM me. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services