ICAM revolver

Javier peynado · October 30, 2013, 05:51 PM

I have this gun and would like to know what value has

Saludos

Hawg · October 30, 2013, 05:53 PM

About 175.00 with the case and accessories.

Javier peynado · October 30, 2013, 05:58 PM

Dlls?

Hawg · October 30, 2013, 06:00 PM

If Dlls = dollars then yes.

Javier peynado · October 30, 2013, 06:03 PM

I thought I had more value
is old or new manufacturing?

Hawg · October 30, 2013, 06:28 PM

Fairly new. Probably made in the 70's. It should have a date code consisting of Roman numerals or two letters in a box on the frame. It also should have a manufacturers logo on it somewhere, maybe under the loading lever. Brass frame Remington revolvers are modern Italian fantasy pieces. After looking at the pic again it appears to have engraving on it. That may get a few more dollars than a plain one.

Javier peynado · October 30, 2013, 07:04 PM

I have some photos to see if this increases its price

Hawg · October 30, 2013, 07:26 PM

Not really. The engraving is nice but the PR brand was low quality.

Doc Hoy · October 31, 2013, 03:54 AM

Welcome to the forum.

I am with Hawg on his evaluation of the pistol set. (Maybe as high as 200.00 but I doubt it)

It is not in great cosmetic shape. With some substantial effort which would cost more than the pistol is worth, it could be brought back to new (actually better than new) condition.

The roll engraving done by some of the lesser manufacturers does not really add to the value. I think it would only take about an additional ten minutes or less to do the engraving. Actually some of the engraving (in my opinion) made them look cheap, like lipstick on a pig, although I must hasten to say that of the techniques I have seen, yours appears to be better than average.

Fit and finish appears not to be up to the standards contemporary to those years (roughly 1970 if Hawg is right, and I think he is). Armi San Marco and Armi San Paolo made revolvers in those days which were quite good.

The case is less than perfect and new ones can be purchased at relatively low prices. I bought a used one at a show for ten bucks. I also bought a set very much like yours with the exception that the revolver was nickel plated, made by a very scrupulous manufacturer of about the period yours was made, unfired with no ring around the cylinder, and paid 240.00 for it.

If you are looking to sell, you could list it on Gunbroker.com and start at a high price, say 250.00. It probably won't sell at that price, but you can always back off until it sells or until the price gets so low that you just want to keep it.

The market for this revolver with the case and accessories is relatively small. That is why I recommend starting high and then backing off. You can't really rely upon a large market to take the price up, since on this revolver set, you may only have about four people who are interested. Half of them don't have any money and at least one won't stick with the auction. That means the first bid takes it.

Another option is to sell the individual accessories on eBay and dismantle the revolver and sell the parts.

It is likely that the set has more value to you personally but that value would stem from a sentimental connection rather than true collectability.

I would say that the revolver itself is somewhat rare because I believe few were made. But this alone does not increase the value much unless you could find a collector who is looking for this specific marque. Yugos are relatively rare too.

Javier peynado · October 31, 2013, 02:59 PM

thanks for the explanation
really not looking to sell just was curious for Price

in another forum of my country and I did a topic
http://www.mexicoarmado.com/armas-an...-revolver.html

in this issue are explaining me how to clean the gun to give a better look

Thanks for your time

spitpatch · October 31, 2013, 04:20 PM

I would put just the gun on gun broker for something around 125 plus postage. keep the case and other stuff. Buy a steel frame 51/2" from Cabelas on sale. Then you will have a real nice outfit.. Just make sure you get a barrel length that will fit in your display case. Just a thought.

Javier peynado · November 12, 2013, 05:24 PM

clean with brasso and this was the result
After

Before

Javier peynado · November 12, 2013, 05:25 PM

indy1919 · November 12, 2013, 08:39 PM

The gun does look newer.. I do think I like the aged brass look.. But just my opinion..

g.willikers · November 13, 2013, 01:20 PM

Did you get that sixgun from the Cisco Kid?
Oh Cisco!
Oh Pancho!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042093/
Never missed an episode.
They are still fighting evil and righting wrongs - on Netflix and Hulu.

October 30, 2013, 05:51 PM	#1
Javier peynado Junior Member Join Date: October 30, 2013 Posts: 7	ICAM revolver I have this gun and would like to know what value has Saludos

October 30, 2013, 05:58 PM	#3
Javier peynado Junior Member Join Date: October 30, 2013 Posts: 7	ICAM revolver Dlls?

October 30, 2013, 06:03 PM	#5
Javier peynado Junior Member Join Date: October 30, 2013 Posts: 7	ICAM revolver I thought I had more value is old or new manufacturing?

October 30, 2013, 07:04 PM	#7
Javier peynado Junior Member Join Date: October 30, 2013 Posts: 7	ICAM revolver I have some photos to see if this increases its price

October 31, 2013, 03:54 AM	#9
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	Javier Welcome to the forum. I am with Hawg on his evaluation of the pistol set. (Maybe as high as 200.00 but I doubt it) It is not in great cosmetic shape. With some substantial effort which would cost more than the pistol is worth, it could be brought back to new (actually better than new) condition. The roll engraving done by some of the lesser manufacturers does not really add to the value. I think it would only take about an additional ten minutes or less to do the engraving. Actually some of the engraving (in my opinion) made them look cheap, like lipstick on a pig, although I must hasten to say that of the techniques I have seen, yours appears to be better than average. Fit and finish appears not to be up to the standards contemporary to those years (roughly 1970 if Hawg is right, and I think he is). Armi San Marco and Armi San Paolo made revolvers in those days which were quite good. The case is less than perfect and new ones can be purchased at relatively low prices. I bought a used one at a show for ten bucks. I also bought a set very much like yours with the exception that the revolver was nickel plated, made by a very scrupulous manufacturer of about the period yours was made, unfired with no ring around the cylinder, and paid 240.00 for it. If you are looking to sell, you could list it on Gunbroker.com and start at a high price, say 250.00. It probably won't sell at that price, but you can always back off until it sells or until the price gets so low that you just want to keep it. The market for this revolver with the case and accessories is relatively small. That is why I recommend starting high and then backing off. You can't really rely upon a large market to take the price up, since on this revolver set, you may only have about four people who are interested. Half of them don't have any money and at least one won't stick with the auction. That means the first bid takes it. Another option is to sell the individual accessories on eBay and dismantle the revolver and sell the parts. It is likely that the set has more value to you personally but that value would stem from a sentimental connection rather than true collectability. I would say that the revolver itself is somewhat rare because I believe few were made. But this alone does not increase the value much unless you could find a collector who is looking for this specific marque. Yugos are relatively rare too. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

October 30, 2013, 05:53 PM	#2
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	About 175.00 with the case and accessories.

October 30, 2013, 06:00 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	If Dlls = dollars then yes.

October 30, 2013, 06:28 PM	#6
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Fairly new. Probably made in the 70's. It should have a date code consisting of Roman numerals or two letters in a box on the frame. It also should have a manufacturers logo on it somewhere, maybe under the loading lever. Brass frame Remington revolvers are modern Italian fantasy pieces. After looking at the pic again it appears to have engraving on it. That may get a few more dollars than a plain one.

October 30, 2013, 07:26 PM	#8
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Not really. The engraving is nice but the PR brand was low quality.

October 31, 2013, 02:59 PM	#10
Javier peynado Junior Member Join Date: October 30, 2013 Posts: 7	thanks for the explanation really not looking to sell just was curious for Price in another forum of my country and I did a topic http://www.mexicoarmado.com/armas-an...-revolver.html in this issue are explaining me how to clean the gun to give a better look Thanks for your time

October 31, 2013, 04:20 PM	#11
spitpatch Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 171	I would put just the gun on gun broker for something around 125 plus postage. keep the case and other stuff. Buy a steel frame 51/2" from Cabelas on sale. Then you will have a real nice outfit.. Just make sure you get a barrel length that will fit in your display case. Just a thought.

November 12, 2013, 05:24 PM	#12
Javier peynado Junior Member Join Date: October 30, 2013 Posts: 7	ICAM revolver clean with brasso and this was the result After Before

November 12, 2013, 05:25 PM	#13
Javier peynado Junior Member Join Date: October 30, 2013 Posts: 7	ICAM revolver

November 12, 2013, 08:39 PM	#14
indy1919 Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2011 Posts: 277	The gun does look newer The gun does look newer.. I do think I like the aged brass look.. But just my opinion..

November 13, 2013, 01:20 PM	#15
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	Did you get that sixgun from the Cisco Kid? Oh Cisco! Oh Pancho! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042093/ Never missed an episode. They are still fighting evil and righting wrongs - on Netflix and Hulu. __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”