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Old June 27, 2020, 05:39 PM   #1
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Best Defensive 223 5.56 ammo

Just brought a new toy yesterday and was wondering what the best JHP are for a 16 in barreled AR. Thanks
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Old June 27, 2020, 05:48 PM   #2
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I assume you're asking about home defense?

50-55gr Amax varmint loads tend to not pass through too many layers of dry wall.

My personal preference is the copper/polymer rounds. They have reliable terminal performance while fragmenting inside of building materials.

If you live miles from anyone; 62gr bonded soft point (federal trophy bonded bear claw if you can find it) or 77gr OTM are both pretty well regarded.


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Old June 27, 2020, 06:21 PM   #3
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Best place on the internet. Others just try to replicate it

https://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/Se...ense_Ammo_FAQ/
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Old June 27, 2020, 06:50 PM   #4
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Thanks my gun really likes 55 grn area
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Old June 27, 2020, 09:21 PM   #5
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I really prefer a 62ish grain bonded bullet (soft point) for defensive use. Something along the lines of the speer gold dot or federal fusion. There are lots of good rounds out there, you just want to stay away from varmint type bullets. they fragment and don't penetrate adequately. Think something for deer sized game.
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Old June 28, 2020, 06:33 AM   #6
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I really prefer a 62ish grain bonded bullet (soft point) for defensive use. Something along the lines of the speer gold dot or federal fusion. There are lots of good rounds out there, you just want to stay away from varmint type bullets. they fragment and don't penetrate adequately. Think something for deer sized game.
I would argue that varmint loads are adequate. They aren't necessarily ideal for the reasons you mentioned, but for the added protection against missed passing through and out of the house it's something to think about.

So much of this is situationally dependant:
Where do you live?
who do you live with?
how close are your neighbors?
what is your house made of?
Do you have a good plan that is at least very likely to put your rounds into a safe backstop? What twist is the barrel?
Are you likely to encounter intruders wearing either body armor or excessively heavy clothing?

On an adjacent note:
What level of training do you have?

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Old June 28, 2020, 07:35 AM   #7
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Depending on what your twist is , I would go with the one that shoots best . You want to hit what your aiming at. A 223 is a powerful round , heck I wouldn't want to get hit with a pellet round.

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Old June 28, 2020, 11:24 AM   #8
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I have no idea what's best. I just use what I have. And since I think 55gr FMJ is probably inadequate, I'm loaded with 75gr HP's that I use for hog hunting.
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Old June 28, 2020, 02:56 PM   #9
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Even the barrier blind stuff is pretty safe as long as you hit your target. I came across an instance where an officer shot an armed suspect from about 10-15’ away with a 55gr GMX copper bullet out of a 16” barrel. It penetrated about 8-9”, broke a collarbone and bounced off the brick facing behind the guy with no more damage to the facing than a copper smear.
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Old June 28, 2020, 03:11 PM   #10
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Hornady Critical Defense, comes in 55 grain and 73 grain.
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Old June 28, 2020, 04:47 PM   #11
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Even the barrier blind stuff is pretty safe as long as you hit your target. I came across an instance where an officer shot an armed suspect from about 10-15’ away with a 55gr GMX copper bullet out of a 16” barrel. It penetrated about 8-9”, broke a collarbone and bounced off the brick facing behind the guy with no more damage to the facing than a copper smear.
In brick houses that's true. Red brick tends to handle being shot pretty well; but if it's just siding it may be a different story. It just depends on the situation

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