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Old August 20, 2015, 08:29 PM   #1
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I'll bet you guys didn't know this.

CCI primers are WAY better than Winchester primers. This according to a LGS employee when asked by my wife why the CCI primers were $66.00 per thousand while the Winchester primers were $33.00 per thousand. And you guys thought you knew everything.
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Old August 20, 2015, 08:39 PM   #2
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Let us know where you shop..... so we can stay away from that store.
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Old August 20, 2015, 08:40 PM   #3
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WOW....

They are appearantly better than the Federal 210M Match primers I'm getting also...
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Old August 20, 2015, 09:06 PM   #4
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You mean they go bang more than once?
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Old August 20, 2015, 09:24 PM   #5
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Could be worse. no LGS at all. There's a local Big5 sporting goods with some long guns, not a real gun store IMO. Asking a clerk in any store seems fruitless now-a-days.
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Old August 20, 2015, 09:27 PM   #6
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I was in this gun shop not long ago and the CCI primers were marked around $33.00. Obviously someone mismarked them. The thing that bothers me is that the employee was either ignorant or thought he could put one over on my wife. My wife has no knowledge of reloading and if I had told her to buy the CCI's, she would have, and at a ridiculous price. Fortunately I wanted the Winchester.
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Old August 20, 2015, 09:38 PM   #7
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For many years me and many others used CCI exclusively because -- well just because.

Around here, they were most common, and as folks are apt to do, highly recommended because that was what they used; therefore it must be best.


During the primer shortage, this notion was pretty much debunked, and now it seems that folks will use anything they can get their hands on. If CCI was twice as spendy, and others were available, I'd never use CCI again. jd
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Old August 20, 2015, 11:00 PM   #8
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I know that CCI's tend to be a little more expensive, but twice as much?!

I just bought 5000 Winchester WSP's, and 2000 CCI 350's from Midway. Maybe I should have looked at the prices
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Old August 20, 2015, 11:06 PM   #9
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I switched to Russian Primers

I switched to Russian Primers for rifle:
TULAMMO SMALL RIFLE MAG PRIMERS (KVB556M) (1000) Yes $24.50
I used to use CCI#41. Zero complaints with the Tula primers.
And S&B for pistol:
SELLIER & BELLOT LARGE PISTOL PRIMERS (1000) Yes $22.00
Haven't tried the S&B yet. Still using up the cheapo WW.
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/
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Old August 20, 2015, 11:09 PM   #10
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Are you sure they weren't Bench rest primers she was inquiring about? God Bless
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Old August 20, 2015, 11:17 PM   #11
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WLR Primers are where it's at man.
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Old August 21, 2015, 03:55 AM   #12
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$66! Wow, gouging? That's twice what they're charging around here for CCI. I'd just buy the Winchester or better yet, avoid that place and let him know why.
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Old August 21, 2015, 08:55 AM   #13
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Since you state that your wife has no knowledge of reloading, I suspect WVM is right. The CCI primers in question were probably BR primers, which someone might reasonably say are WAY better than standard Winchester primers, without explaining why to a non-reloader. But, I could be wrong. I was once before.
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Old August 21, 2015, 09:20 AM   #14
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I think the wife and LGS guy were planning on pocketing the extra $33, and going out on the town!
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Old August 21, 2015, 09:28 AM   #15
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While I use CCI almost exclusively ... I've found the the other primers work just as well. Some have softer cups, others are a bit hotter... But all go bang and never found a primer that I would 'stay away from' (other than I won't buy a foreign brand just because).
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Old August 21, 2015, 09:39 AM   #16
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I'll bet you guys didn't know this.
AL45, you win. I am the fan of 'the more powerful', I want the most powerful primers available. That leaves me with Federal primers. I do not buy into the more powerful thing but if Federal primers were more powerful I could test and compare, that is better than talking about it.

Then there is R. Lee's book on modern reloading, I have the very rare book, I know, it is not fair. There is a remote chance I have the same book issued to other reloaders, there is a chance I have the only book that has been read.

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Old August 21, 2015, 09:53 AM   #17
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Ouch. I was grumpy when the LGS raised the price of Winchester primers from $35 to $40 per thousand. Actually, I still am grumpy about it, but I am about to buy another box because it beats paying hazmat fees.
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Old August 21, 2015, 10:01 AM   #18
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I've never been a fan of CCI primers.
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Old August 21, 2015, 11:41 AM   #19
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^^^ Well somebody must be... At that price
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Old August 21, 2015, 11:51 AM   #20
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Not defending the clerk, but someone selling something is supposed to be an expert on that product, if by position only (if he's selling the stuff he's gotta know all about it, right? ). Go to a auto parts store and every clerk is a long time mechanic, knowledgeable in all aspects of automotive engineering (I'm hoping you guys understand sarcasm!). Perhaps he was confronted with a question he had no answer for and just winged it. How would you as a customer, not 100% familiar with a specific product react if a clerk replied with "I dunno"? So, the clerk has to become an expert to avoid embarrassment, and an upset customer...

Not all misinformation is an attempt to cheat someone...
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Old August 21, 2015, 12:44 PM   #21
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Those prices seem more like standard Win LR and CCI bench rest primers . Are you sure the wife was clear on what she was looking at ? The bench rest primers are pricey .

Midway has CCI bench rest primers for $55 and Win LR for $34 . Maybe not double but $21 is quite a bit to me .
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Old August 21, 2015, 02:16 PM   #22
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A few months ago I picked up 2000 CCI BR primers for $50 per 1000, I felt like I was stealing. I left a 1000 on the shelf though so I got over it
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Old August 21, 2015, 02:55 PM   #23
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A while back a LGS here had Fiochi small pistol primers on clearance. Price wasn't all that attractive until I noticed they were in boxes of 1500. For traget plinking ammo, I'll try anything to reduce costs if it works out well. I was not disappointed.


I was curious about BR primers. What is it about a BR primer that makes it different that people pay extra for?
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Old August 21, 2015, 04:49 PM   #24
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What is it about a BR primer that makes it different that people pay extra for?
Seems I read something about them being hand crafted by some cat that's been filling primers for the last 150 years; started when he was 7 years old...

Consistent ignition and power produced.
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Old August 21, 2015, 07:50 PM   #25
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Yes it has to do with the operator's ability and reputation to be able to make a consistently even and exact spread of the priming material each and every time. Most of us here on the forum would probably not qualify for the job.
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