Does anyone actually prefer round nose bullets? - Page 3

HiBC · December 20, 2019, 06:31 AM

Supposedly folks made 22 LR bullets more effective on small game by cutting a flat meplat on the bullet.

In simplistic terms,it might be that a bullet harder to drive through a target transfers more energy.

For temporary cavitation,I think the round nose bullet will provide for more lateral acceleration of the fluids than a skinny VLD

A rock makes a bigger spash than a javelin thrown into a pond.

There is another factor...the 257 dia 117 gr rd nose as case in point.

Some riflemakers ,among them Remington,were known to emphasize lighter bullets/higher velocities for marketing.Often the rifles came cursed with slow twist barrels.

Stabilization with twist is about length,not weight. A flat base round nose will stabilize in a slower twist than a boat tail spitzer,bullet weight being equal

Blue Duck · February 2, 2020, 11:45 PM

Wow! This thread is 20 years old, and I actually posted on it in year 2000. Apparently, I posted under another name back then, not my current name. I think I had some computer changes or something and for some reason had to open under a new handle.

Back then I posted that I loaded 200gr roundnoses in my 350 Rem mag with very good results. I still own the 350 mag, but I have gotten lazy and have not loaded for it in quite a while, being mostly content to use factory loads in my .308 Browning BLR among other guns. I shoot the 45/70 with 300gr hollowpoints quite a bit and I love the close range smack down of those loads for hogs and such.

The .308 BLR loves the old 180gr factory Winchester Silvertips that are not made anymore. I am still using them, because I bought a case of them many years ago and they shoot and work so well in that gun that I never saw much need to experiment.

The thing I like about bullets like many of the roundnoses, and those Slivertips is that they are not fancy trick bullets that might or might not open up and work like I might expect. I just like fairly heavy bullet with plenty of lead up front to open up reliably and enough bullet weight to stay together and blow through the animal for a good blood trail if needed, but frankly, I don't often need the blood trail and the animals usually drop in sight.
Anyway, wow! It's feels funny posting on the same thread I posted on 20yr ago.

bamaranger · February 3, 2020, 01:23 AM

When I was a kid, one fella that hunted with our bunch (ol' Ted!) shot a short .243 bolt rifle and loaded it with 105 grain Speer round nose slugs. He always claimed it made the .243 a better killer.

When I finally got around to hunting with a full stocked Mannlicher style .2143 carbine (I'd been a basher for years) I tried to find 105 RN in keeping with the mannlicher tradition of long heavy roundnoses and ol' Teds comments.

Like different slugs that I've come to favor, they've been discontinued.

Don Fischer · February 3, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Duck

Wow! This thread is 20 years old, and I actually posted on it in year 2000. Apparently, I posted under another name back then, not my current name. I think I had some computer changes or something and for some reason had to open under a new handle.

Back then I posted that I loaded 200gr roundnoses in my 350 Rem mag with very good results. I still own the 350 mag, but I have gotten lazy and have not loaded for it in quite a while, being mostly content to use factory loads in my .308 Browning BLR among other guns. I shoot the 45/70 with 300gr hollowpoints quite a bit and I love the close range smack down of those loads for hogs and such.

The .308 BLR loves the old 180gr factory Winchester Silvertips that are not made anymore. I am still using them, because I bought a case of them many years ago and they shoot and work so well in that gun that I never saw much need to experiment.

The thing I like about bullets like many of the roundnoses, and those Slivertips is that they are not fancy trick bullets that might or might not open up and work like I might expect. I just like fairly heavy bullet with plenty of lead up front to open up reliably and enough bullet weight to stay together and blow through the animal for a good blood trail if needed, but frankly, I don't often need the blood trail and the animals usually drop in sight.
Anyway, wow! It's feels funny posting on the same thread I posted on 20yr ago.

Well this is just BS! You have been on this site for 20 yrs and haven't made any more post's than that? :-)

jfruser · February 3, 2020, 01:17 PM

.375H&H with 270gr RNSP does not need a CNS shot on wild hogs or deer for a DRT, no-trail deal in my experience. A shot through the boiler room leaves some lung and heart outside the body and has been enough to persuade them to DRT. Done right, no meat loss. Done wrong, say buh-bye to that shoulder. Either way, no tracking.

T. O'Heir · February 3, 2020, 01:44 PM

OP is 20 years old.
Silvertips were semi-jacketed with an Al cap. Friggin' fabulous bullet too. Used a 220 out of an M1 Rifle one time(with no damage to the rifle of any kind.) that literally blew the off side of a ground hog into mush. A very decidedly sad day when Winchester made the mistake of discontinuing 'em. Have a few rounds of 150's I bought at a gun show eons ago, loaded in .308 for my semi'd Winchester M-14.

Hawg · February 3, 2020, 09:14 PM

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Ain't it odd how we could dream up stuff like that when we were kids.

I wont even mention a lot of the stuff I dreamed up and did as a kid.

I used a lot of round nose back in the day. I prefer ballistic tips now. They don't perform as well at close range but they do kill. I shot a deer at 40 yards with one in a 30-06 and the entrance hole was bigger than the exit hole. I hit her high in the lungs and her lungs were mush. A piece of the lead core was all that made it through. She walked about 25 yards and piled up.

ms6852 · February 4, 2020, 11:33 AM

I do, have been using Remington Cor-lokt bullets on deer and elk for over half a century. They are inexpensive, proven, and gets the job done every time. The work good in my Winchester 94 or my 30-06.

2damnold4this · February 6, 2020, 08:38 PM

It might be a 20 year old thread but there is wisdom here. Some of these posters are no longer with us and being able to read their posts is worth the bump.

Normana · February 12, 2020, 07:01 PM

It seems to me that I have less blood shot meat with round nose bullets.
R

fireitall · April 12, 2020, 12:36 PM

Haha. Well they can come here and learn now.

February 3, 2020, 01:23 AM	#53
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,303	wish I could find some of these When I was a kid, one fella that hunted with our bunch (ol' Ted!) shot a short .243 bolt rifle and loaded it with 105 grain Speer round nose slugs. He always claimed it made the .243 a better killer. When I finally got around to hunting with a full stocked Mannlicher style .2143 carbine (I'd been a basher for years) I tried to find 105 RN in keeping with the mannlicher tradition of long heavy roundnoses and ol' Teds comments. Like different slugs that I've come to favor, they've been discontinued.

February 3, 2020, 01:17 PM	#55
jfruser Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 350	.375H&H with 270gr RNSP does not need a CNS shot on wild hogs or deer for a DRT, no-trail deal in my experience. A shot through the boiler room leaves some lung and heart outside the body and has been enough to persuade them to DRT. Done right, no meat loss. Done wrong, say buh-bye to that shoulder. Either way, no tracking. __________________ Regards, jfruser "Books and bullets have their own destinies."----Bob Ross

February 3, 2020, 01:44 PM	#56
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	OP is 20 years old. Silvertips were semi-jacketed with an Al cap. Friggin' fabulous bullet too. Used a 220 out of an M1 Rifle one time(with no damage to the rifle of any kind.) that literally blew the off side of a ground hog into mush. A very decidedly sad day when Winchester made the mistake of discontinuing 'em. Have a few rounds of 150's I bought at a gun show eons ago, loaded in .308 for my semi'd Winchester M-14. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

February 4, 2020, 11:33 AM	#58
ms6852 Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,394	I do, have been using Remington Cor-lokt bullets on deer and elk for over half a century. They are inexpensive, proven, and gets the job done every time. The work good in my Winchester 94 or my 30-06. __________________ ONLY TWO DEFINING FORCES HAVE GIVEN UP THEIR LIVES FOR YOU. ONE IS JESUS CHRIST FOR YOUR SOUL AND THE OTHER IS THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOUR FREEDOM.

December 20, 2019, 06:31 AM	#51
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,283	Supposedly folks made 22 LR bullets more effective on small game by cutting a flat meplat on the bullet. In simplistic terms,it might be that a bullet harder to drive through a target transfers more energy. For temporary cavitation,I think the round nose bullet will provide for more lateral acceleration of the fluids than a skinny VLD A rock makes a bigger spash than a javelin thrown into a pond. There is another factor...the 257 dia 117 gr rd nose as case in point. Some riflemakers ,among them Remington,were known to emphasize lighter bullets/higher velocities for marketing.Often the rifles came cursed with slow twist barrels. Stabilization with twist is about length,not weight. A flat base round nose will stabilize in a slower twist than a boat tail spitzer,bullet weight being equal

February 2, 2020, 11:45 PM	#52
Blue Duck Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2006 Posts: 402	Wow! This thread is 20 years old, and I actually posted on it in year 2000. Apparently, I posted under another name back then, not my current name. I think I had some computer changes or something and for some reason had to open under a new handle. Back then I posted that I loaded 200gr roundnoses in my 350 Rem mag with very good results. I still own the 350 mag, but I have gotten lazy and have not loaded for it in quite a while, being mostly content to use factory loads in my .308 Browning BLR among other guns. I shoot the 45/70 with 300gr hollowpoints quite a bit and I love the close range smack down of those loads for hogs and such. The .308 BLR loves the old 180gr factory Winchester Silvertips that are not made anymore. I am still using them, because I bought a case of them many years ago and they shoot and work so well in that gun that I never saw much need to experiment. The thing I like about bullets like many of the roundnoses, and those Slivertips is that they are not fancy trick bullets that might or might not open up and work like I might expect. I just like fairly heavy bullet with plenty of lead up front to open up reliably and enough bullet weight to stay together and blow through the animal for a good blood trail if needed, but frankly, I don't often need the blood trail and the animals usually drop in sight. Anyway, wow! It's feels funny posting on the same thread I posted on 20yr ago.

February 6, 2020, 08:38 PM	#59
2damnold4this Senior Member Join Date: August 12, 2009 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 2,526	It might be a 20 year old thread but there is wisdom here. Some of these posters are no longer with us and being able to read their posts is worth the bump.

February 12, 2020, 07:01 PM	#60
Normana Junior Member Join Date: May 16, 2016 Posts: 5	It seems to me that I have less blood shot meat with round nose bullets. R

April 12, 2020, 12:36 PM	#61
fireitall Junior Member Join Date: April 10, 2020 Posts: 4	Haha. Well they can come here and learn now.