Getting my C&R soon and which Mosin rifle carbine is best? - Page 2

artsmom · March 19, 2010, 10:46 PM

I concur with AK Man. I have a 91/30, 91/59, Model 38, and two Model 44s, and the Polish one is the nicest in my collection.

I did get a beautiful 91/30 from Classic Arms, which was their rifle of the day.

I like them all, actually.

TX Hunter · March 20, 2010, 04:42 PM

MR Rwt101

I am also waiting for my C&R, I sent off the paper work, with payment, and hope took copy 2 to our chief of police. He said it was the first time he has ever seen that. Oh well.
I have already bought a Mauser for myself and a Mossin for my Son.
I bought one from an individual and the other was sent to a dealer for me.
You will love the Mossin Nagant, they are great rifles, I sure hope you get a good one, and have alot of fun shooting it.

gyvel · March 21, 2010, 03:12 AM

Find a Polish M44 carbine; They are the Cadillacs of Mosin Nagants.

ksstargazer · March 21, 2010, 11:04 AM

While the Polish M44's have the best fit and finish of the carbines, they do not have the accuracy of the M91/59 mosin carbines. I have both and both are must haves in any mosin collection.
If you want to venture out of the carbines, the Finnish M39 is a bit longer but has much nicer sights and handles recoil and muzzle blast better. They are all uniformly among the most accurate military rifles made. I agree with Tamara, you can't go wrong with a Finnish mosin. I have yet to find an inaccurate Finnish rifle.

SigP6Carry · March 21, 2010, 03:06 PM

I prefer the M38, over all other Mosin Carbines (outside of the Finns) for one reason: not sighted in on a Bayonet. Other than that, the M38, 44 and 59 are all essentially identical carbines and you'd do good with any of them that you want. The Finn models are truly the Cadillacs of the Mosin world, although I don't consider them a Mosin, myself. I consider them as much a Mosin as the Springfield a Mauser, although many would disagree.

Also, Stargazer, check this out: The M59's aren't inherently more accurate than the M44's. I'm not sure if you considered the bayonet into the consideration with the M44 vs. 59 issue. Or the fact that Mosin quality and accuracy is ALL OVER THE PLACE. A beat up, rotted out Finn ain't gonna shoot as well as a near-new Soviet 30.

Ignition Override · March 22, 2010, 01:04 AM

There have not been any MNs, no matter which type, in gun shows near Memphis which compared with the Polish MN 44s or better examples of Finns.

An extra, modest bit of cash can be well worth it.
People are often seduced by laminated MN 44s

, at the expense of searching for a really bright bore/rifling. This was my main mistake.

mp25ds4 · March 22, 2010, 02:57 PM

A pole m44 is by far the highest quality of m44's, I scored mine in excellent condition for 150$ about 2 months ago. But you'll have trouble finding one in excellent cond. for less than 275$

TommyW · March 22, 2010, 05:14 PM

If you can find one...the 91/59 is the most accurate carbine that I own. StanSC is right. The 91/59 is a cut down 91/30. That means that the barrel is thicker than the M38 or the M44. My M44 can't get close to what the 59 will do. I have set mine up in a ATI stock with Pentax glass. It'll bring down about anything that grows on the North American continent. From the Keys to Alaska. I blew a hole through a 10" red oak tree with the 7.62x54R cartridge. Grizzly bears are tough, but, they ain't that tough!!!Ain't this fun,...I love this stuff!...

March 21, 2010, 03:06 PM	#30
SigP6Carry Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2009 Posts: 1,086	I prefer the M38, over all other Mosin Carbines (outside of the Finns) for one reason: not sighted in on a Bayonet. Other than that, the M38, 44 and 59 are all essentially identical carbines and you'd do good with any of them that you want. The Finn models are truly the Cadillacs of the Mosin world, although I don't consider them a Mosin, myself. I consider them as much a Mosin as the Springfield a Mauser, although many would disagree. Also, Stargazer, check this out: The M59's aren't inherently more accurate than the M44's. I'm not sure if you considered the bayonet into the consideration with the M44 vs. 59 issue. Or the fact that Mosin quality and accuracy is ALL OVER THE PLACE. A beat up, rotted out Finn ain't gonna shoot as well as a near-new Soviet 30. __________________ -liberal gun nut = exception to the rule- -1.24274238 miles, because Russians don't need scopes- -Gun control was the Klan's favorite law, how can you advocate a set of laws designed to allow the denigration of a people?-

March 22, 2010, 01:04 AM	#31
Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,884	There have not been any MNs, no matter which type, in gun shows near Memphis which compared with the Polish MN 44s or better examples of Finns. An extra, modest bit of cash can be well worth it. People are often seduced by laminated MN 44s, at the expense of searching for a really bright bore/rifling. This was my main mistake. Last edited by Ignition Override; March 22, 2010 at 10:17 PM.

March 22, 2010, 02:57 PM	#32
mp25ds4 Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Posts: 392	A pole m44 is by far the highest quality of m44's, I scored mine in excellent condition for 150$ about 2 months ago. But you'll have trouble finding one in excellent cond. for less than 275$ __________________ Liberal Newscaster Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: 'What do you feel.....when you shoot a Terrorist?' The Marine shrugged and replied, "A Slight Recoil."

March 22, 2010, 05:14 PM	#33
TommyW Member Join Date: January 26, 2010 Location: Cary, North Carolina Posts: 33	91/59 If you can find one...the 91/59 is the most accurate carbine that I own. StanSC is right. The 91/59 is a cut down 91/30. That means that the barrel is thicker than the M38 or the M44. My M44 can't get close to what the 59 will do. I have set mine up in a ATI stock with Pentax glass. It'll bring down about anything that grows on the North American continent. From the Keys to Alaska. I blew a hole through a 10" red oak tree with the 7.62x54R cartridge. Grizzly bears are tough, but, they ain't that tough!!!Ain't this fun,...I love this stuff!...

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March 19, 2010, 10:46 PM	#26
artsmom Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 334	I concur with AK Man. I have a 91/30, 91/59, Model 38, and two Model 44s, and the Polish one is the nicest in my collection. I did get a beautiful 91/30 from Classic Arms, which was their rifle of the day. I like them all, actually.

March 20, 2010, 04:42 PM	#27
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	MR Rwt101 I am also waiting for my C&R, I sent off the paper work, with payment, and hope took copy 2 to our chief of police. He said it was the first time he has ever seen that. Oh well. I have already bought a Mauser for myself and a Mossin for my Son. I bought one from an individual and the other was sent to a dealer for me. You will love the Mossin Nagant, they are great rifles, I sure hope you get a good one, and have alot of fun shooting it.

March 21, 2010, 03:12 AM	#28
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Find a Polish M44 carbine; They are the Cadillacs of Mosin Nagants.

March 21, 2010, 11:04 AM	#29
ksstargazer Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2004 Location: Flint Hills of Kansas Posts: 316	While the Polish M44's have the best fit and finish of the carbines, they do not have the accuracy of the M91/59 mosin carbines. I have both and both are must haves in any mosin collection. If you want to venture out of the carbines, the Finnish M39 is a bit longer but has much nicer sights and handles recoil and muzzle blast better. They are all uniformly among the most accurate military rifles made. I agree with Tamara, you can't go wrong with a Finnish mosin. I have yet to find an inaccurate Finnish rifle.