1702 Nuremburg book question

**4V50 Gary** · June 6, 2018, 11:25 PM

I was reading a book on marksmanship that a 1702 Nuremburg book mentions a scoped rifle. Anybody got a clue what book and where I can find one?

Model12Win · June 13, 2018, 03:17 PM

Scopes were not invented until the 1800s IIRC.

Sound like fake news to me.

MTT TL · June 13, 2018, 04:00 PM

Sighting aids are fairly old and go back to the 1600s. Glass scopes that we would recognize did not come along till the 1800s.

**4V50 Gary** · June 13, 2018, 08:00 PM

Sorry but the first scoped rifle in the United States was during the Revolution. I've no proof it was used in combat, but the officer who ordered it knew nothing of cheek weld and had to have springs (spring loaded butt pad) installed to soften the recoil. Check out chapter 4 of my second book (it's also in the first book):

https://www.amazon.com/Sharpshooters...oters+marksmen

ETA: Found an article on it too:

https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/07...lescope-to-it/

MTT TL · June 14, 2018, 07:20 AM

Yeah he also immediately invented "scope eye" right after and abandoned the project.

It wasn't until we had rifles capable of reliable long range accuracy that we get scopes to go with them. Before that there wasn't much point. The minnieball was the turning point I think.

**4V50 Gary** · June 14, 2018, 09:01 PM

Please explain your expertise and research that you did in the blackpowder era MTT TL? Lest one forgets, gasoline preceded the gasoline combustion engine. Stuff used to be discarded into rivers.

June 6, 2018, 11:25 PM	#1
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	1702 Nuremburg book question I was reading a book on marksmanship that a 1702 Nuremburg book mentions a scoped rifle. Anybody got a clue what book and where I can find one? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 13, 2018, 04:00 PM	#3
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	Sighting aids are fairly old and go back to the 1600s. Glass scopes that we would recognize did not come along till the 1800s. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

June 13, 2018, 08:00 PM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Sorry but the first scoped rifle in the United States was during the Revolution. I've no proof it was used in combat, but the officer who ordered it knew nothing of cheek weld and had to have springs (spring loaded butt pad) installed to soften the recoil. Check out chapter 4 of my second book (it's also in the first book): https://www.amazon.com/Sharpshooters...oters+marksmen ETA: Found an article on it too: https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/07...lescope-to-it/ __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 14, 2018, 07:20 AM	#5
MTT TL Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2009 Location: Quadling Country Posts: 2,780	Yeah he also immediately invented "scope eye" right after and abandoned the project. It wasn't until we had rifles capable of reliable long range accuracy that we get scopes to go with them. Before that there wasn't much point. The minnieball was the turning point I think. __________________ Thus a man should endeavor to reach this high place of courage with all his heart, and, so trying, never be backward in war.

June 14, 2018, 09:01 PM	#6
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,829	Please explain your expertise and research that you did in the blackpowder era MTT TL? Lest one forgets, gasoline preceded the gasoline combustion engine. Stuff used to be discarded into rivers. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 13, 2018, 03:17 PM	#2
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Scopes were not invented until the 1800s IIRC. Sound like fake news to me.

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