The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Dave McCracken Memorial Shotgun Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old September 8, 2019, 06:35 PM   #1
TXAZ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 5, 2010
Location: McMurdo Sound Texas
Posts: 3,754
36 Gauge Shotgun?

I’m guessing it’s a typo but anyone ever heard of a 36 (thirty six) gauge shotgun?
__________________
!أنا لست إرهابياً
TXAZ is offline  
Old September 8, 2019, 06:47 PM   #2
fourbore
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 22, 2015
Location: new england
Posts: 1,139
Probably, but; I never heard of that with a factory shell. I have seen or heard of 12,16,20,24,28 and 32. (In know I skipped 14) Assuming a normal progression +4, get you to 36. That would be next. Like you, I never heard of a 36.

Did you try google? This turned up with Google. How hard was that?

"Marland is correct. The .410 is not really 36 gauge - if I remember correctly it is 67 gauge - but for reasons that nobody understands, it has always been known as 36 gauge in Europe. "
fourbore is offline  
Old September 8, 2019, 06:58 PM   #3
natman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 24, 2008
Posts: 2,299
While the 410 is NOT a 36 gauge, it has been nevertheless referred to by that name in some places and times.

It is examined in detail here.
__________________
Time Travelers' Wisdom:
Never Do Yesterday What Should Be Done Tomorrow.
If At Last You Do Succeed, Never Try Again.
natman is offline  
Old September 8, 2019, 08:15 PM   #4
JohnKSa
Staff
 
Join Date: February 12, 2001
Location: DFW Area
Posts: 22,627
Wow, nothing confusing or stupid about that...

So at some time in the past, although everyone involved understood that 36ga is actually about .506 caliber and that .410 is about 68ga and also knew that previously the 36ga had referred to an entirely different cartridge from the .410; someone decided to conflate the two anyway for very questionable reasons.

Well, that's an interesting bit of trivia, I suppose.
__________________
Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?
JohnKSa is offline  
Old September 27, 2019, 06:43 PM   #5
stuckinthe60s
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 31, 2017
Location: Va., Ct., Mo..
Posts: 267
+1.
a 410 is refered to as a 36ga in europe.
you will find many 410's in europe marked 36ga.
__________________
Retired Military Aviation
Former Member Navy Shooting Team
Distinguished Pistol Shot
NSSA All American
stuckinthe60s is offline  
Old September 27, 2019, 07:23 PM   #6
FITASC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2014
Posts: 5,157
A 410 is a 67 gauge
__________________
"I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa
FITASC is offline  
Old September 28, 2019, 09:07 AM   #7
natman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 24, 2008
Posts: 2,299
Quote:
Originally Posted by FITASC View Post
A 410 is a 67 gauge
You're absolutely correct. Click on the link in post #3 to see what this 36 gauge thing is about.
__________________
Time Travelers' Wisdom:
Never Do Yesterday What Should Be Done Tomorrow.
If At Last You Do Succeed, Never Try Again.
natman is offline  
Old September 30, 2019, 05:48 PM   #8
stuckinthe60s
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 31, 2017
Location: Va., Ct., Mo..
Posts: 267
just like a 38 isnt a 38, its a 35 cal. same same.
__________________
Retired Military Aviation
Former Member Navy Shooting Team
Distinguished Pistol Shot
NSSA All American
stuckinthe60s is offline  
Old October 1, 2019, 02:36 AM   #9
Scorch
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 13, 2006
Location: Washington state
Posts: 13,756
The .410 is an American concoction, derived from the 44 Game Getter and 44 Extra Long cartridges. The first 410s were made in the early 1900s. There were 2" and 2-1/2" shells for the 410 originally, the 3" was added later.

The 36 gauge is a European shotgun gauge. Europeans had a whole plethora of "unusual" gauges, like 14, 24. and 36, many of them proprietary for famous or popular gun makers. Most of the oddballs faded away, much like the 16 gauge has here stateside.
__________________
Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs.
But what do I know?
Summit Arms Services
Taylor Machine
Scorch is offline  
Old October 1, 2019, 07:39 AM   #10
FITASC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2014
Posts: 5,157
I see the 16 hanging and coming back to some degree. The 24 is popular in Europe and comparable to our 28
__________________
"I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa
FITASC is offline  
Old October 2, 2019, 01:00 PM   #11
stuckinthe60s
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 31, 2017
Location: Va., Ct., Mo..
Posts: 267
id like to see more 32 ga myself.
__________________
Retired Military Aviation
Former Member Navy Shooting Team
Distinguished Pistol Shot
NSSA All American
stuckinthe60s is offline  
Old October 3, 2019, 07:18 PM   #12
Don Fischer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 2, 2017
Posts: 1,582
Seem's to me the 410 was not a ga but rather a cal. I think that's the way I read it. Now it's a 60 something cal?
Don Fischer is offline  
Old October 3, 2019, 10:15 PM   #13
FITASC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 6, 2014
Posts: 5,157
No, it's a 67 GAUGE, it is a 41 caliber
__________________
"I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa
FITASC is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2018 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.06290 seconds with 8 queries