CZ75 ? - Page 2

Walt Sherrill · August 27, 2012, 06:20 PM

The SP-01 is a variant of the 75B.... I've seem some described as the 75B SP-01 Shadow. Ditto the P-01; it's sometimes called the 75B P-01, etc., etc.

I don't think there is a plain 75B "Shadow" model, just the 75B SP-01 Shadow...

Venom1956 · August 27, 2012, 07:02 PM

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/by-category/handguns/

Go under CZ Competition,

CZ75 SP-01 Shadow

I just remember a guy trying to sell his shadow for a mere 700 dollars and the buyer didn't know the difference and scoffed at the price.

There are several differences one of the main ones are the lack of the Firing Pin Block hence the lack of the 'B' on shadow models. It's a fantastic gun.

Walt there are actually 4 'Shadow' 75's that CZ offers in their standard line up.

CZ 75 Shadow
CZ 75 Shadow T
CZ 75 Shadow T-SA
and... my favorite
CZ 75 Shadow CTS LS-P

I have done LOTS of CZ research in finding my "perfect" model but it'll need to come from the custom shop and cost over 2k when its all said and done. Hence why I don't have it yet. Got my lady a PM9 first.

MLeake · August 27, 2012, 09:42 PM

If he thought $700 was bad, he should see the Tactical Sport, or better yet the CzechMate (I love that name).

Venom1956 · August 27, 2012, 10:08 PM

I've held the TacSport and the checkmate with the alternate barrel. Its really not a bad price for all the stuff you get...

They both are AMAZING but the frame sizes are a bit larger then the regular CZ 75 which to my smallish hands is the deal breaker.

That's why I fell in love with the CZ 75 Shadow CTS LS-P it has the TacSport slide fit to a Shadow frame. Awesome!

Skans · August 28, 2012, 08:06 AM

The one con about the gun in question is that some people (me in particular) don't like the black epoxy-type finish. Although its durable, it is also IMHO ugly, I believe that they use that finish to hide imperfections in finishing the pistol - i.e. they don't have to polish it as much as a blued gun.

Pilot · August 28, 2012, 08:18 AM

^^^^^^^^

If you don't like the blue (black) polymer finish, CZ offers the CZ-75 in stainless steel and nickel. You could see EVERY imperfection on a stainless gun, if there were any, especially the polished stainless they offer, but they also have a matte stainless. Maybe someone can post a pic of both. They are beautiful.

Skans · August 28, 2012, 08:26 AM

I have seen the polished stainless CZ's. While they are shiny, they are not perfectly finished. I do like the matte stainless CZ 75's, however - very nice looking good quality handgun!

Walt Sherrill · August 28, 2012, 10:20 AM

I found, recently, that the gloss blue finish is also available through the CZ Custom Shop.

I've heard many complain that they are no longer available -- well, they are, but they cost about $80 more than the standard 75B.

Skans · August 28, 2012, 10:35 AM

I didn't know that the gloss blue was available - $80 more would be well worth it! I'd love to see pictures of a gloss blue CZ75

Pilot · August 28, 2012, 11:09 AM

I forgot about the polished blue. You don't see them very often. I'd love to have a polished blue 97B.

IMightBeWrong · August 28, 2012, 11:46 AM

I really like the CZ line, but I don't shoot them very well. They have a trigger reset similar to Beretta or HK and I'm so used to Glocks and short reset triggers (Think SIG SRT) that it just didn't work for me. I admittedly haven't had a chance to try the Omega trigger CZ offers, though, so once I do I just might have to get another CZ if it's as nice as I've heard!

Walt Sherrill · August 28, 2012, 12:32 PM

re: short reset...

There are some options. The SA version can use a two-way adjustable trigger that can reduce take up to almost zilch -- but it can't be used in the DA/SA models. Cajun Gun Works has a trigger that shortens the pull (but doesn't do anything for the take-up.)

I'm still waiting to handle and shoot my first Omega-trigger CZ...

http://cajungunworks.com

.

Venom1956 · August 29, 2012, 12:20 AM

This is what a Current BLUED SP-01 looks like. I passed on one because I really wanted a shooter and the gold was to flashy for me. Love the bluing though.

but man all those scratches and imperfections really glare through...

I'm only messin!

Walt Sherrill · August 29, 2012, 06:27 AM

Your concern about the visibility of scratches and blemishes is why I now avoid high-gloss blue and the highly-polished stainless guns. I've had a couple of "safe queens" and I don't need any more of them.

That said, the highly-polished BLUED finish is gorgeous.

Skans · August 29, 2012, 07:51 AM

That is a very nice blued finish - I'd skip the gold, but gladly pay $80 extra for the gloss blue!

edfrompa · August 30, 2012, 03:35 PM

Jump on that price!!!!! I have one. It is another firearm that is worth its weight in gold. The ergonomics on the grips are a take off of the Browning 1911 which makes this firearm very comfortable to shoot. Very little recoil. This firearm is put together like a fined tuned swiss watch. Get it!!

tsillik · September 1, 2012, 11:04 AM

Little update here, took to long to look at it, Tried to wait a few more days to look at it, thought he might deal a little more on it, but it was gone, snooze you lose! terry

Sharpsdressed Man · September 1, 2012, 04:23 PM

I once had the hammer, trigger, thumblatch, and ejector rod gold plated on a high polish blued revolver. I wish I still had it, but sold it to a friend in a moment of foolishness. The gold trim will grow on you, if you give it a chance. Very unique, and adequately tasteful, and a gun that really stands out among all the plastic and flat black out there.

tekarra · September 2, 2012, 06:43 PM

Armoredman, from where did you get the book in the photo of post #14?

LarryFlew · September 3, 2012, 12:11 PM

http://shop.cz-usa.com/P-19710/Cz-In...-Handbook.aspx

tekarra · September 3, 2012, 07:08 PM

Thanks Larry,

MLeake · September 4, 2012, 05:45 PM

Sorry it took a while, but at Venom1956's request, here's a pic of the P-01 with Kadet installed. Note that the slide extends past the frame, and the magazine does not sit flush with the magazine well, as the kit is designed to work with the full-size guns.

ImnOkie · September 4, 2012, 11:09 PM

The Polished are just a pain to keep clean.
http://

You might want to check out a CZ clone called Tanfoglio; I prefer it to any of my CZ75B's.
http://

Venom1956 · September 13, 2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Sorry it took a while, but at Venom1956's request, here's a pic of the P-01 with Kadet installed. Note that the slide extends past the frame, and the magazine does not sit flush with the magazine well, as the kit is designed to work with the full-size guns.

It looks off... but strangely I kinda like it? I do appreciate the pictures. Not often someone has exactly what I want to see.

MLeake · September 13, 2012, 04:51 PM

The Kadet wasn't designed with full length dust cover or compact grip frame in mind, so it does look off... but it shoots very well.

August 27, 2012, 07:02 PM	#27
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	http://www.cz-usa.com/products/by-category/handguns/ Go under CZ Competition, CZ75 SP-01 Shadow I just remember a guy trying to sell his shadow for a mere 700 dollars and the buyer didn't know the difference and scoffed at the price. There are several differences one of the main ones are the lack of the Firing Pin Block hence the lack of the 'B' on shadow models. It's a fantastic gun. Walt there are actually 4 'Shadow' 75's that CZ offers in their standard line up. CZ 75 Shadow CZ 75 Shadow T CZ 75 Shadow T-SA and... my favorite CZ 75 Shadow CTS LS-P I have done LOTS of CZ research in finding my "perfect" model but it'll need to come from the custom shop and cost over 2k when its all said and done. Hence why I don't have it yet. Got my lady a PM9 first. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug Last edited by Venom1956; August 27, 2012 at 07:10 PM.

August 27, 2012, 10:08 PM	#29
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	I've held the TacSport and the checkmate with the alternate barrel. Its really not a bad price for all the stuff you get... They both are AMAZING but the frame sizes are a bit larger then the regular CZ 75 which to my smallish hands is the deal breaker. That's why I fell in love with the CZ 75 Shadow CTS LS-P it has the TacSport slide fit to a Shadow frame. Awesome! __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

August 28, 2012, 08:18 AM	#31
Pilot Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2000 Posts: 4,193	^^^^^^^^ If you don't like the blue (black) polymer finish, CZ offers the CZ-75 in stainless steel and nickel. You could see EVERY imperfection on a stainless gun, if there were any, especially the polished stainless they offer, but they also have a matte stainless. Maybe someone can post a pic of both. They are beautiful. __________________ Pilot

August 28, 2012, 11:09 AM	#35
Pilot Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2000 Posts: 4,193	I forgot about the polished blue. You don't see them very often. I'd love to have a polished blue 97B. __________________ Pilot

August 28, 2012, 11:46 AM	#36
IMightBeWrong Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Posts: 814	I really like the CZ line, but I don't shoot them very well. They have a trigger reset similar to Beretta or HK and I'm so used to Glocks and short reset triggers (Think SIG SRT) that it just didn't work for me. I admittedly haven't had a chance to try the Omega trigger CZ offers, though, so once I do I just might have to get another CZ if it's as nice as I've heard! __________________ "Intelligence is nothing more than discussing things with others. Limitless wisdom comes of this." - 山本常朝

August 27, 2012, 06:20 PM	#26
Walt Sherrill Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 6,348	The SP-01 is a variant of the 75B.... I've seem some described as the 75B SP-01 Shadow. Ditto the P-01; it's sometimes called the 75B P-01, etc., etc. I don't think there is a plain 75B "Shadow" model, just the 75B SP-01 Shadow...

August 27, 2012, 09:42 PM	#28
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	If he thought $700 was bad, he should see the Tactical Sport, or better yet the CzechMate (I love that name).

August 28, 2012, 08:06 AM	#30
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	The one con about the gun in question is that some people (me in particular) don't like the black epoxy-type finish. Although its durable, it is also IMHO ugly, I believe that they use that finish to hide imperfections in finishing the pistol - i.e. they don't have to polish it as much as a blued gun.

August 28, 2012, 08:26 AM	#32
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I have seen the polished stainless CZ's. While they are shiny, they are not perfectly finished. I do like the matte stainless CZ 75's, however - very nice looking good quality handgun!

August 28, 2012, 10:20 AM	#33
Walt Sherrill Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 6,348	I found, recently, that the gloss blue finish is also available through the CZ Custom Shop. I've heard many complain that they are no longer available -- well, they are, but they cost about $80 more than the standard 75B.

August 28, 2012, 10:35 AM	#34
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I didn't know that the gloss blue was available - $80 more would be well worth it! I'd love to see pictures of a gloss blue CZ75

August 28, 2012, 12:32 PM	#37
Walt Sherrill Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 6,348	re: short reset... There are some options. The SA version can use a two-way adjustable trigger that can reduce take up to almost zilch -- but it can't be used in the DA/SA models. Cajun Gun Works has a trigger that shortens the pull (but doesn't do anything for the take-up.) I'm still waiting to handle and shoot my first Omega-trigger CZ... http://cajungunworks.com . Last edited by Walt Sherrill; August 28, 2012 at 01:58 PM.

August 29, 2012, 12:20 AM	#38
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	This is what a Current BLUED SP-01 looks like. I passed on one because I really wanted a shooter and the gold was to flashy for me. Love the bluing though. but man all those scratches and imperfections really glare through... I'm only messin! __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

August 29, 2012, 06:27 AM	#39
Walt Sherrill Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 6,348	Your concern about the visibility of scratches and blemishes is why I now avoid high-gloss blue and the highly-polished stainless guns. I've had a couple of "safe queens" and I don't need any more of them. That said, the highly-polished BLUED finish is gorgeous.

August 29, 2012, 07:51 AM	#40
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	That is a very nice blued finish - I'd skip the gold, but gladly pay $80 extra for the gloss blue!

August 30, 2012, 03:35 PM	#41
edfrompa Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 1999 Posts: 335	Jump on that price!!!!! I have one. It is another firearm that is worth its weight in gold. The ergonomics on the grips are a take off of the Browning 1911 which makes this firearm very comfortable to shoot. Very little recoil. This firearm is put together like a fined tuned swiss watch. Get it!!

September 1, 2012, 11:04 AM	#42
tsillik Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2011 Location: Carter Lake Ia. Posts: 237	Little update here, took to long to look at it, Tried to wait a few more days to look at it, thought he might deal a little more on it, but it was gone, snooze you lose! terry

September 1, 2012, 04:23 PM	#43
Sharpsdressed Man Junior member Join Date: June 21, 2009 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,176	I once had the hammer, trigger, thumblatch, and ejector rod gold plated on a high polish blued revolver. I wish I still had it, but sold it to a friend in a moment of foolishness. The gold trim will grow on you, if you give it a chance. Very unique, and adequately tasteful, and a gun that really stands out among all the plastic and flat black out there.

September 2, 2012, 06:43 PM	#44
tekarra Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2007 Posts: 1,164	Armoredman, from where did you get the book in the photo of post #14?

September 3, 2012, 12:11 PM	#45
LarryFlew Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2009 Location: Minnesota CZ fan Posts: 902	http://shop.cz-usa.com/P-19710/Cz-In...-Handbook.aspx

September 3, 2012, 07:08 PM	#46
tekarra Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2007 Posts: 1,164	Thanks Larry,

September 4, 2012, 05:45 PM	#47
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Sorry it took a while, but at Venom1956's request, here's a pic of the P-01 with Kadet installed. Note that the slide extends past the frame, and the magazine does not sit flush with the magazine well, as the kit is designed to work with the full-size guns.

September 4, 2012, 11:09 PM	#48
ImnOkie Junior Member Join Date: August 23, 2012 Location: Livin on Tulsa Time Posts: 10	The Polished are just a pain to keep clean. http:// You might want to check out a CZ clone called Tanfoglio; I prefer it to any of my CZ75B's. http://

September 13, 2012, 04:51 PM	#50
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	The Kadet wasn't designed with full length dust cover or compact grip frame in mind, so it does look off... but it shoots very well.

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