Let's see your battle rifle's back-up...

joshua · October 17, 2007, 04:39 AM

Battle knives. These are the actual knives that I take when I deploy doing my job in the military. I don't bring all 4 of them, depending on the terrain that we are briefed I make the decision to bring one at the most two. Well I usually bring one knife and my dearly missed Leatherman that was stolen by one of the movers that packed our household goods. Let's see what sharp objects you guys carry or rely on with your life. I didn't know where to post this since there isn't a knive forum.

josh

support_six · October 17, 2007, 10:15 AM

I've given most of my knives to my children or to deserving soldiers so no photos available, but during my military career (1976-1999) I carried a Randall #1, Randall #14, Chris Reeve Green Beret (now owned by a corporal of Marines), a MadDog ATAK Hunter (now owned by a Special Forces Major), a Camillus Pilot Survival Knife, a Camillus Fighting/Utility, a Benchmade AFO (also given to the SF Major), and various Swiss Army Knives.

MarineForLife · October 17, 2007, 10:34 AM

can always rely on the trusty k-bar.

SR420 · October 17, 2007, 10:57 AM

billindenver · October 17, 2007, 03:46 PM

Ka-bar. Traditional and folding warthog.

AK103K · October 17, 2007, 05:57 PM

Gerber MKII

Blackjack 1-7

Sgt.Fathead · October 18, 2007, 12:24 AM

AK, that Gerber pic makes me really sad. I foolishly traded my Gerber to a Scots Marine in 1990 for a whole big mess of gear (which they called kit) thinking I'd get another when I rotated back to CONUS and lo and behold, no mas at the PX!

That was a find knife. *sigh*

FirstFreedom · October 18, 2007, 12:58 AM

Got a couple bayos...
-one is for the AR15 - forget the designation - M8?
-one is a Turkish bayo that goes on a Turk 98 mauser
-one is a really long nice British model 1907 - it goes on #2 and #3 Enfields, but I have on on the dresser in the bedroom for use as a CQB short sword/dirk.

I'll try and post a pic this weekend.

On Sunday I gave my SOG Seal Pup fixed blade knife to my half brother who is being activated to go to Iraq in Jan, from the Okla Army Nat. Guard. He might need it there. Got a few others - there's a couple of current threads on knives over in the Gear & Accessories forum if you look there. I am not in the .mil myself. AK103, those are nice! Is the "blackjack" a model of Randall or what?

MTMilitiaman · October 18, 2007, 01:21 AM

When my bro (in pic) came back from his first tour in Iraq, he has a bunch of Iraqi flags and other souvenirs. One of them was a simple Gerber folder they gave to the guys in his unit, which he gave to me. I asked him if he was sure, but he said he didn't need anything to remind him of that place, and he had a Benchmade so he didn't need another knife. I carry it on occasion, but not very often as I have a habit of losing knives, and this one means a whole lot more to me than its monetary value alone.

More often, I carry a CRKT M16, and I recently bought this Cold Steel for the big stuff:

When I carry it, I feel like challenging moose in hand-to-hoof combat.

joshua · October 18, 2007, 04:55 AM

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When I carry it, I feel like challenging moose in hand-to-hoof combat.

LOL! Yup! When I carry my Cold Steel Trailmaster Carbon 5 (biggest knife in the pic) I feel like I can take on a mountain lion. josh

GATMOG · October 20, 2007, 04:26 AM

One of these, depending on my mood

Ghurka Khukri, 12" truck spring steel--very high carbon, rusts instantly if not treated with oil... makes the others look small, but I've cut down 3" wide trees with it (a few strokes on the ceramic touches it right back up)

Cold Steel SRK 6.25" AUS8; wish I could have gotten the carbon 5, but on the plus side, AUS8 is pretty good and doesn't rust... but carbon 5 is simply magnificent.. the point on this one is like a needle and the edge is nothing to shrug off either (replaced my USMC Ka-Bar which replaced my glock field knife)

SOG Field Pup 4" AUS 8, its a smallish recurve blade with a hollow grind--good slicer

SOG Flash II 3.5" AUS 8, my every day carry--great knife for the price..

EDITED to elaborate on the knives

Creature · October 20, 2007, 04:39 AM

I recently acquired the Marine's newest bayonet, the OKC3S. Nothing but happy with it. Quite large (8 inch blade) and very robust...it is all business.

FirstFreedom · October 20, 2007, 09:25 AM

GATMOG, I like your knives a like - esp. the kukhri and cold steel. I almost bought that SOF flash II one time, but thought it felt a tad flimsy - has yours stood up to tough use? Oh I also like that mini SOG seal - that looks like a fantanstic skinning/butchering knife.

Creature, that is also a might fine looking knife - how much did that set you back?

**Mike Irwin** · October 20, 2007, 09:54 AM

My battle rifle is a Lee Enfield...

This is the back up that came with it. Well, not that one exactly, but one like it.

joshua · October 20, 2007, 05:38 PM

Mike, that is the John Holmes of all bayonets.

I'm using what straight-shooter commented on my PS'ed revolver.

josh

Tom2 · October 20, 2007, 05:47 PM

Doesn't the military give you a freebie that you can stick on the end of the barrel?

joshua · October 20, 2007, 07:39 PM

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Doesn't the military give you a freebie that you can stick on the end of the barrel?

Maybe the Marines, Army and all brances of special forces gets the freebie to stick at the end of their rifles. Most operators and technicians in the USAF do not get a bayonet even when we convoy in hostile areas. They give us Leatherman multi tool or small pocket knives. Nowadays doing a fixed bayonet charge is considered misuse of resources, unless you are in deep doodoo that it's a must to gain an advantage. josh

support_six · October 20, 2007, 10:10 PM

I never liked, or carried, the M9 bayonet. It isn't a very good bayonet and a worse field knife. I carried the M7 and a separate combat knife instead. Creature, I do like the new USMC bayonet though. Guess I'll have to get one for my other AR15!

Creature · October 21, 2007, 09:13 AM

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Creature, that is also a might fine looking knife - how much did that set you back?

Firstfreedom & support_six: I searched high and low on the internet and finally scored a brand new one on eBay.....(sorry, I kinda vomitted a little bit when I wrote the e-word) of all places for $97 including shipping. Most knife sites carry them for between $100-150.
Great knife. Built tough as an Abrams tank. The blade is massive: 8" clip point made of carbon steel with a Rockwell hardness of 53-58. The blade is .200 inches thick and 1 3/8" wide, with a 1 3/4" serration, a true sharpened top swedge, and non-reflective black phosphate coat. The low noise multi-carry sheath has a ceramic coated aluminum honing rod on the back. The bayonet is held securely inside the scabbard by a fitted internal stainless steel spring friction device and has two snap fasteners. The scabbard is equipped with two load bearing attaching straps with cross straps, which allows for multiple carry options.

It is one hell of a knife/bayonet.

AK103K · October 21, 2007, 09:39 AM

Looks like the Marines finally modified the K Bar into a bayonet. Most bayonets are not fighting knives, although many seem to rely on them as such.

Creature · October 21, 2007, 02:50 PM

I too would agree that most bayonets are far too long to be used as a knife, let alone a fighting knife. But this new OKC3S bayonet for the USMC would do just as well as a fighting knife as a bayonet, in my opinion.

Having both an OKC3S and many KA-BAR knives, I would have to add that the OKC3S is far better made and much more robust. It also has a much less curved clip point than the KA-BAR knife.

support_six · October 21, 2007, 03:04 PM

Creature, when I got my issue Camillus F/U (kabar type) it had a very gentle curve to the clip so I just used a stone to straighten it. Now it's easier to sharpen and looks much more like the USMC bayonet you've enlightened us about. I'm retired Army but saw a lot of Camillus F/U knives being carried because they could be purchased at the PX for about $20. I purchased an M-9 bayonet from the PX system back in about 1992 but didn't like it as a bayonet or as a field knife so went back to my old M7 bayonet. I purchased all my own field gear so I could modify it if I wanted, and make it fit properly.

G-Cym · October 22, 2007, 08:07 PM

Smith and Wesson HRT, K-Bar, and Gerber Diesel. Haven't deployed yet though. Going to Honduras in a few months, back to the States, then over to the Middle East.

Creature · October 23, 2007, 09:01 AM

G-Cym: is that a "USMC" or "USN" or KA-BAR? It looks like it says USN in your picture...

AK103K · October 23, 2007, 01:03 PM

Mines a USMC/Navy issue K Bar......

October 17, 2007, 10:57 AM	#4
SR420 Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,336	__________________ The History and Development of the M14 EBR

October 18, 2007, 12:24 AM	#7
Sgt.Fathead Junior member Join Date: March 3, 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,637	Sad AK, that Gerber pic makes me really sad. I foolishly traded my Gerber to a Scots Marine in 1990 for a whole big mess of gear (which they called kit) thinking I'd get another when I rotated back to CONUS and lo and behold, no mas at the PX! That was a find knife. sigh

October 18, 2007, 01:21 AM	#9
MTMilitiaman Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2004 Location: NW Montana Posts: 1,875	When my bro (in pic) came back from his first tour in Iraq, he has a bunch of Iraqi flags and other souvenirs. One of them was a simple Gerber folder they gave to the guys in his unit, which he gave to me. I asked him if he was sure, but he said he didn't need anything to remind him of that place, and he had a Benchmade so he didn't need another knife. I carry it on occasion, but not very often as I have a habit of losing knives, and this one means a whole lot more to me than its monetary value alone. More often, I carry a CRKT M16, and I recently bought this Cold Steel for the big stuff: When I carry it, I feel like challenging moose in hand-to-hoof combat. __________________ "...nothing says 'I WILL shoot every last one of you before you have time to reconsider your poor choices in life' like an AK." ~Dave R.

October 20, 2007, 04:26 AM	#11
GATMOG Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2007 Location: OREGON Posts: 221	One of these, depending on my mood Ghurka Khukri, 12" truck spring steel--very high carbon, rusts instantly if not treated with oil... makes the others look small, but I've cut down 3" wide trees with it (a few strokes on the ceramic touches it right back up) Cold Steel SRK 6.25" AUS8; wish I could have gotten the carbon 5, but on the plus side, AUS8 is pretty good and doesn't rust... but carbon 5 is simply magnificent.. the point on this one is like a needle and the edge is nothing to shrug off either (replaced my USMC Ka-Bar which replaced my glock field knife) SOG Field Pup 4" AUS 8, its a smallish recurve blade with a hollow grind--good slicer SOG Flash II 3.5" AUS 8, my every day carry--great knife for the price.. EDITED to elaborate on the knives __________________ *BEWARE OF ATTACK REPUBLICAN*

October 21, 2007, 02:50 PM	#21
Creature Junior member Join Date: April 8, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,769	I too would agree that most bayonets are far too long to be used as a knife, let alone a fighting knife. But this new OKC3S bayonet for the USMC would do just as well as a fighting knife as a bayonet, in my opinion. Having both an OKC3S and many KA-BAR knives, I would have to add that the OKC3S is far better made and much more robust. It also has a much less curved clip point than the KA-BAR knife. Last edited by Creature; October 22, 2007 at 09:23 AM.

October 17, 2007, 10:15 AM	#2
support_six Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2000 Location: Richland, WA Posts: 678	I've given most of my knives to my children or to deserving soldiers so no photos available, but during my military career (1976-1999) I carried a Randall #1, Randall #14, Chris Reeve Green Beret (now owned by a corporal of Marines), a MadDog ATAK Hunter (now owned by a Special Forces Major), a Camillus Pilot Survival Knife, a Camillus Fighting/Utility, a Benchmade AFO (also given to the SF Major), and various Swiss Army Knives.

October 17, 2007, 10:34 AM	#3
MarineForLife Member Join Date: April 23, 2007 Posts: 21	can always rely on the trusty k-bar.

October 17, 2007, 03:46 PM	#5
billindenver Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2007 Location: Colorado - Paradise Posts: 322	Ka-bar. Traditional and folding warthog.

October 17, 2007, 05:57 PM	#6
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	Gerber MKII Blackjack 1-7

October 18, 2007, 12:58 AM	#8
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	Got a couple bayos... -one is for the AR15 - forget the designation - M8? -one is a Turkish bayo that goes on a Turk 98 mauser -one is a really long nice British model 1907 - it goes on #2 and #3 Enfields, but I have on on the dresser in the bedroom for use as a CQB short sword/dirk. I'll try and post a pic this weekend. On Sunday I gave my SOG Seal Pup fixed blade knife to my half brother who is being activated to go to Iraq in Jan, from the Okla Army Nat. Guard. He might need it there. Got a few others - there's a couple of current threads on knives over in the Gear & Accessories forum if you look there. I am not in the .mil myself. AK103, those are nice! Is the "blackjack" a model of Randall or what?

October 20, 2007, 09:25 AM	#13
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	GATMOG, I like your knives a like - esp. the kukhri and cold steel. I almost bought that SOF flash II one time, but thought it felt a tad flimsy - has yours stood up to tough use? Oh I also like that mini SOG seal - that looks like a fantanstic skinning/butchering knife. Creature, that is also a might fine looking knife - how much did that set you back?

October 20, 2007, 09:54 AM	#14
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	My battle rifle is a Lee Enfield... This is the back up that came with it. Well, not that one exactly, but one like it. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 20, 2007, 05:38 PM	#15
joshua Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2004 Location: norCal Posts: 2,161	Mike, that is the John Holmes of all bayonets. I'm using what straight-shooter commented on my PS'ed revolver. josh

October 20, 2007, 05:47 PM	#16
Tom2 Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,676	Doesn't the military give you a freebie that you can stick on the end of the barrel?

October 20, 2007, 10:10 PM	#18
support_six Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2000 Location: Richland, WA Posts: 678	I never liked, or carried, the M9 bayonet. It isn't a very good bayonet and a worse field knife. I carried the M7 and a separate combat knife instead. Creature, I do like the new USMC bayonet though. Guess I'll have to get one for my other AR15!

October 21, 2007, 09:39 AM	#20
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	Looks like the Marines finally modified the K Bar into a bayonet. Most bayonets are not fighting knives, although many seem to rely on them as such.

October 21, 2007, 03:04 PM	#22
support_six Senior Member Join Date: August 29, 2000 Location: Richland, WA Posts: 678	Creature, when I got my issue Camillus F/U (kabar type) it had a very gentle curve to the clip so I just used a stone to straighten it. Now it's easier to sharpen and looks much more like the USMC bayonet you've enlightened us about. I'm retired Army but saw a lot of Camillus F/U knives being carried because they could be purchased at the PX for about $20. I purchased an M-9 bayonet from the PX system back in about 1992 but didn't like it as a bayonet or as a field knife so went back to my old M7 bayonet. I purchased all my own field gear so I could modify it if I wanted, and make it fit properly.

October 22, 2007, 08:07 PM	#23
G-Cym Junior member Join Date: September 27, 2006 Posts: 366	Smith and Wesson HRT, K-Bar, and Gerber Diesel. Haven't deployed yet though. Going to Honduras in a few months, back to the States, then over to the Middle East.

October 23, 2007, 09:01 AM	#24
Creature Junior member Join Date: April 8, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,769	G-Cym: is that a "USMC" or "USN" or KA-BAR? It looks like it says USN in your picture...

October 23, 2007, 01:03 PM	#25
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	Mines a USMC/Navy issue K Bar......

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