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January 17, 2013, 10:32 AM | #1 | |
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HIPAA VS Executive Orders
The new Obama gun plan talks in loose terms about sharing information on mental health patients. But how does this actually work? When you visit the doctors office you sign a HIPAA form. This form allows the option of not sharing your medical infromation.
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January 17, 2013, 10:52 AM | #2 | |
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It's ok here - Obama wants to break those protections but that would take legislation.
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January 17, 2013, 10:57 AM | #3 |
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OK, that brings up another issue. Some hospitals now ask if you have guns at home. I assume most of us would answer with "none of your business". I also assume they could not refuse treatment for non answer of that question.
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January 17, 2013, 11:49 AM | #4 |
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You can lie if you want. It will have absolutely no effect on your treatment and it is not a crime to lie to a doctor. In fact I would say today medical professionals get lied to just as often as bill collectors. My wife is in the field and she sees it every day.
If you want to resist the moral implications of lying, consider it forced upon you by an oppressive regime. The same as you would have lied to the authorities under Stalin if you had lived in the USSR.
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Another part of the culture of "illegality", lying to your doctor to avoid possible intrusion of the state into matters you consider private.
Nobody can trust anyone and everyone lies. A negative cultural shift promoted by government. This will not make us a better group of people. Perhaps less difficultly controlled, though. How does one form a militia without trusting those you are with? Or fight effectively, if it comes to that? This is a feature, not a bug, in the program.
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January 17, 2013, 12:06 PM | #6 |
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The concern will be for those stuck on public hand outs of medical care. If they come up with some officious form and make you sign it then you could be potentially lying on a public document.
There you would be stuck. As usual it will serve as absolutely no hindrance to people intent on criminal acts though.
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January 17, 2013, 12:20 PM | #7 |
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To all the doctors here. How will it complicate your practice if, when you look at your patient, you are seeing a man or woman who considers you an enemy?
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January 17, 2013, 01:22 PM | #9 | |
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I already don't trust doctors and they have earned it.
Besides they always want to jab sharp point things in me and I really am uncomfortable with that ****. As for the topic of discussion; If this is the one you are talking about .... Quote:
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If the executive order is worded in such a way that the reporting of certain mental health issues falls under one of those provisions, then unauthorized disclosure of relevant PHI to the federal government would be permitted under the law. As far as I can tell it would still be the physician or healthcare institution's prerogative whether to report. I don't see any way that he can require reporting via executive order. Even if they do collect that information, I'm not sure what good it would do. NICS can only deny you if you have been found mentally defective, involuntarily committed or been declared mentally incompetent. All of those are handled by the judicial system, are they not? |
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Anyway, it looks like anyone should be very careful about any questions they answer. |
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January 17, 2013, 04:56 PM | #12 | |
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As we speak.
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Thanks, good to know.
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Here are some general HIPPA Notes:
The HIPPA act of 1996 has two main parts. Title I – protects health insurance coverage for workers and their families if they change or lose their job. Title II – known as the administrative simplification provisions, requires the establishment of national standards for electronic healthcare transactions and national data identifiers for providers. Title II Has the Most Significant Impact on IT Departments. The following title II rules directly affect on IT department: • Privacy rule • Transaction and Codes Set Rule • Unique Identifier Standards Rule • Security Rule • Enforcement Rule Privacy Rule: governed by the Health and Human Services Office for Civil Rights (OCR) The privacy rule took effect on 14 April 2003. Its establishes regulation for the use and disclosure of Protected Health Information (PHI). If you apply serialization, you must protect this medical information and it may only be disclosed in the following circumstances: • The individual within 30 days of a request. • When the covered entity has obtained written permission of the individual. • When required by law. • To facilitate treatment, payment, or health care operations. When disclosing PHI, it's a covered entity's responsibility to disclose the minimum amount of information necessary. When information flows over public networks, you must apply some form of encryption, if the information is on a closed network, and access controls are sufficient then encryption is optional. All this education is good for some things! Im not a lawyer but I have training on the technical side of this... My guess is that if a doctor or whoever discloses you have some prohibitive condition but you are actually not being treated by that doctor for the condition or being referred for treatment for the prohibitive condition it might be illegal for the doctor to reveal it.... Again I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice... just my thoughts. HIPAA defines health information as Created by or received by: • Health Care Providers • Health Plans • Public health authorities • Employers • Life Insurers • Schools or Universities • Health Care Clearinghouses And relates to the health of an individual, including: • Past, present or future health • Physical health, mental health, or condition of an individual • Past, present or future payments for health care
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